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Well, cause i see this forum have pretty much deamonhunters players, i want you guys judge one of my deamonhunter list. I hope wrote all the names in english correctly cause my codex is writed in other language. All right, here i go!

Brother captain: 61p

Inquisitor with power weapon, bolt pistol, and melta bombs: 41p

Eversor assasin: 95p

8 inquisitorial stormtroopers with 2 plasma guns: 100p
Rhino with smoke launchers: 53p

7 inquisitorial stormtroopers with 2 melta-guns: 90p
Chimera with multilaser and heavy bolter and smoke launchers: 88p

8 GK squad with 1 Incinerator: 235p

8 GK squad with 1 Incinerator: 235p

GK Dreadnought with plasma cannon: 120p

GK dreadnought with twin-linked lascannon: 130p

GK Land Raider with smoke launchers: 253p

Total points: 1501p

I know i surpass the limit in 1 point but in my play group we allow that. Well tactic is simple, one of Gk squads steal the rhino to the inquisitorial stromtroopers, and the other one with the brother capitan, uses the Land rider. They advancing covered by the stormtroopers, the chimera and the both dreadnought. Of course the dreadnoughts advanceforward meanwhile they're shooting every shift. What's your opinion?

No one gonna comment the list? What a pity....

Hello. You are allowed 5pts over any list. OK you could do some terminators, some henchmen, and a Grand Master instead of a brother captain. Also you could do with some Psycannons.

Don't you think psycannons are a bit expensive?? a PAGK with a psycannon cost 50p. I think that's so expensive.

Yeah but they kill infantry really easily, they are one of the best GK weapons. And if you look around the codex, they cost different amounts of points for different units.

Understood. I'm gonna work on that inmediatelly. Thanks for your opinion

Your first concern should be why are those PAGK footslogging it? A good way to get them an X-Port is to get 2x Inquisitors and attach the GK to the inquisitor and let them ride in the rhino / chimera.

I haven't confirmed this trick works rules wise but here is one I thought of: It says if anyone with a 4+ save shoots out of the chimera / rhino then the x-port counts as open topped. You can assault out of an open topped x-port. An inquisitor has a 4+ save. Get my drift? (attach PAGK to Inquisitor and shoot the inquisitor in the shooting phase and then you can assault out of the X-port due to it being open topped).

The IST's should both have meltaguns. The assassin should be dropped and the BC should be given a psychic hood.

Your other problem is where does the BC go? Foot slog it? No. Think of something along the lines of this:

Brother Captain - 81
Psychic Hood

Inquisitor - 153
Null Rod; Psycannon; Chimera; ML; Heavy Flamer; EA; Smoke

IST - 155
5x; 2x Meltaguns; Chimera; ML; Heavy Flamer

IST - 155
5x; 2x Meltaguns; Chimera; ML; Heavy Flamer

IST - 155
5x; 2x Meltaguns; Chimera; ML; Heavy Flamer

PAGK - 300 *Chimera Squad Inquisitor Squad*
Justicar; 9x; Psycannon

PAGK - 235 *Landraider Squad, BC joins*
Justicar; 7x; Incinerator

Land Raider - 258
EA; Smoke Launchers

There you go. Explanations are in the list about where things go. You have a good amount of melta from the IST's and big squads of PAGK meched up.

Well you can read my basic tactic in the first post.
The BC gonna go with one of the PAGK squads in a LR (terminator armor are 2 slots, and each PAGK 1 slot, so 10 in total, perfect for a LR).
This isn't a footlogging list, everyone rides in a vehicle.

About the meltaguns in the IST, is a good idea, but one of them don't gonna have a vehicle (cause PAGK gonna steal that) so i think is much better a plasmagun cause it have better range.

Zmanzeta wrote:Well you can read my basic tactic in the first post.
The BC gonna go with one of the PAGK squads in a LR (terminator armor are 2 slots, and each PAGK 1 slot, so 10 in total, perfect for a LR).
This isn't a footlogging list, everyone rides in a vehicle.

About the meltaguns in the IST, is a good idea, but one of them don't gonna have a vehicle (cause PAGK gonna steal that) so i think is much better a plasmagun cause it have better range.

Ahh stopped reading to soon. I'm guilty of that a lot =P.

In that case:

Assassin still sucks. (you could keep the IST's vehicle and get another chimera / rhino for the inquisitor and have the PAGK ride in that)

You still need a psychic hood.

Chimera should be ML / HF

PC dreads are OK but I would run the GK dread w/ Lascannon / ML for fire support / anti-tank that GK very much so need. In this case they could also sit back in cover and survive which is hard for dreads who try to footslog it towards the enemy.

Zmanzeta wrote:Brother captain: 61p

Vanilla BroCap is a bit tame. Consider some wargear for him; Hammerhand psychic power is a reasonable idea, and a Psycannon might be worth trying too.

Inquisitor with power weapon, bolt pistol, and melta bombs: 41p

Erm.... what's this bloke for?

Eversor assasin: 95p

If you're only using him to cause a turn or two of mayhem and then die it's all good; the 12" charge and general nastiness in CC allows him to do that. However, he costs a lot of points and you seem to be trying to shove an Inquisitor in solely so's you can take him, which is never a good idea.

8 inquisitorial stormtroopers with 2 plasma guns: 100p
Rhino with smoke launchers: 53p

Drop 3 Stormtroopers and give the Rhino extra armour; it needs it.

7 inquisitorial stormtroopers with 2 melta-guns: 90p
Chimera with multilaser and heavy bolter and smoke launchers: 88p

Drop 2 Stormtroopers and swap the CHimera for a Rhino; less firepower and just as likely to die, but it's at least cheaper.

8 GK squad with 1 Incinerator: 235p

8 GK squad with 1 Incinerator: 235p

Incinerators work best in pairs; just make sure the Incinerating d00ds are at the front when you're shooting.

GK Dreadnought with plasma cannon: 120p

GK dreadnought with twin-linked lascannon: 130p

Drop them both. Dreads just don't work in Grey Knights lists, on any level. Too fragile, not versatile enough.

GK Land Raider with smoke launchers: 253p

Extra Armour keeps you moving for 5pts. You also need at least 2, and your list should be built around them.

one of Gk squads steal the rhino to the inquisitorial stromtroopers,

You can't do this, unfortunately; DH Codex Dedicated Transports can only be used by the unit they were bought for :(

They advancing covered by the stormtroopers, the chimera and the both dreadnought. Of course the dreadnoughts advanceforward meanwhile they're shooting every shift. What's your opinion?

One Land Raider is never enough, especially considering the rest of your army is bog-standard at best. The advice you get will depend on what you want your list to do; is it going to be a friendly list, or are you trying to win games with it?

Why i need the Psychic hood? I mean deamons actually don't use psychic powers. Actually all their "powers" are like normal weapons.
I know not everyone likes the imperial assasins or prefer other type of assasins like one with the c'tan weapon. But i think eversor is good to go fast into a combat and take down one squad, even if it cost his live.

Zmanzeta wrote:Why i need the Psychic hood? I mean deamons actually don't use psychic powers. Actually all their "powers" are like normal weapons.
I know not everyone likes the imperial assasins or prefer other type of assasins like one with the c'tan weapon. But i think eversor is good to go fast into a combat and take down one squad, even if it cost his live.

Assassins suck. Your giving up 2 meltaguns and a good shooting x-port (chimera) for some dude that might do something. Maybe. Doubtful.

You won't only fight daemons. Psychid hoods help to block SM power, Chaos Powers, Eldar <--.

Also, Frank did mention that you can't give x-ports to other squads. You have to take 2 LR Godhammers IMHO then. LRC would work too.

EzeKK wrote:Assassins suck. Your giving up 2 meltaguns and a good shooting x-port (chimera) for some dude that might do something. Maybe. Doubtful.

See, I've never liked DH Chimeras. I mean sure you can gear them up exactly like Guard ones, except their Smoke Launchers are better and their EA is cheaper, but... I dunno. I object to paying 90-odd points for a transport that, whilst very shooty indeed, can still be pooned by bolters on 3 sides and will drop to a lascannon hit anywhere faster than you can wish you'd brought a Rhino instead. They've always been a bit poo, but with the current proliferation of lascannons they're slowly getting worse.

You won't only fight daemons. Psychid hoods help to block SM power, Chaos Powers, Eldar <--.

This is something to pay attention to. DH Psychic Hoods have infinite range, unlike Smurf ones which have been nerfed down to 24", and as such you can put it on any model anywhere on the board and can still use it to stop Librarians from Gating or DPs from Lashing you around the table. Or Farseers Dooming you so their noodle-armed Space Elf bikers can beat you in CC.

I will have to agree with Frank about the DH Chimeras. Rhinos are more point friendly. If you have extra points to spend it might be an ok investment but he has a good point.

Uhmm maybe you have the reason about the psychic hood. About the chimeras, i actually use them like shooting platform, and in the lasts rounds, to put a IST squad to a flag point. But i know it cost much more than in the actual GI codex, but that's the price of use a 3rd edition army. About the assasin, very well, i gonna put him down and one of the dreadnoughts (probably the lascannon one) and switch that for a Godhammer LR. Oh and put to all IST, meltaguns. I think it's better make a new list