Flyrant and Devo's

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**Mofreaka**

I know some while back at my FLGS the tyrant's entry read him something to the extent of jump infantry and thus lost his 12 shots, reduced to 6 shots with wings, is this the case? Or does the Flying Tyrant with 2 sets of twin linked Devo's in fact get 12 shots?

For clarificatin on the excerpt, page 31 of the Tyranid Codex states that any creature with wings will be treated like jump infantry in all respects.

Thanks in advance!

Freaka

**Emperors Faithful**

Do jump infantry even lose shots? I don't think so.

**Scott-S6**

He is jump infantry. He is also a monsterous creature but I can see where the rule might be a little confusing.

From a fluff perspective - if two of his limbs are now wings then what's he using to hold the four devourers?

**chromedog**

Most tyranid weapons are assault, hence will always shoot the same number of shots whether stationary or moving.
Jump infantry doesn't change this.

**Emperors Faithful**

...the other 2?
He's got six limbs doesn't he?
What kind of weapon was it? Assualt? Rapid-Fire? Heavy?

**Lukus83**

I imagine the confusion arose due to the fact that he has wings. It's a simple conversion but I guess your friend thought he would have to put them in the arms slots thus taking away a twin linked devourer. This isn't the case since you just put some wings onto the carapace (check out my avatar).

**Emperors Faithful**

Is that legal? Does it say that the wings replace the twin-linked devourers?

**Scott-S6**

chromedog wrote:Most tyranid weapons are assault, hence will always shoot the same number of shots whether stationary or moving.
Jump infantry doesn't change this.

But, infantry can only fire one weapon per turn.

This is fine though since he is a monsterous creature that moves as jump infantry (not IS or BECOMES jump infantry).

Emperor's faithful - he's got two twin-linked devourers. That's four hands for the devourers and two that are wings....

**Emperors Faithful**

oh, so 2 are required for a twin-linked devourer.

Still, do the wings REPLACE some of the limbs?

**Lukus83**

No

**Emperors Faithful**

Then the problem is a confusing conversion. You should move the wings so that theydon't look like replacing some of the limbs.

BTY, scientifically, wings are classified as limbs.

**Lukus83**

Actually it's simple. Just put them onto the carapace.

**Redemption**

Emperors Faithful wrote:Then the problem is a confusing conversion. You should move the wings so that theydon't look like replacing some of the limbs.

BTY, scientifically, wings are classified as limbs.

Just think of ants. They normally have 6 legs but males grow a set of wings, which technically would make them 8 limbed. Anyway, nowhere in the 'nid codex does it say the nids need to enforce the 6 limbs rule, or that wings take up a weapon biomorph slot.

But if you're making a 2xTL dev flyrant conversion and want to stick to the six limbs for whatever reason, just cut off some devourer tips from gaunt or warrior devourers and make each arm a double devourer. Or just glue some devourer tips to the wings; there's usually a claw on the top you can replace.

**Scott-S6**

Emperors Faithful wrote:oh, so 2 are required for a twin-linked devourer.

Still, do the wings REPLACE some of the limbs?

ruleswise no - you can have feet + four weapon arms + wings.

Fluffwise, the 'nids are all supposed to have six limbs. You could have the wings as extra limbs but then they lack the support muscules that would be required for something so big. I've seen some nice conversions where the legs are now weapon arms.

**Gwar!**

No, a Flyrant moves as Jump Infantry, but remains a Tyranid Monstrous Creature, so can fire two weapons in the shooting phase. </Lateness>