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Ok NEWB here...and trying to figure out the minor details of the game. I have a Tyranid Army that is a mix of figs. Basically the ideal is to throw my 3 Gaunt group in with devourer (Full scale gaunt blast with Devourers are expensive but 64 attacks that reroll damage is just too nice). I play mainly with family and the question I have is with Rending Claws...

What is the big deal?

I mean the Roll of 6 deals auto damage is sweet...but ever other forum I read about how people send out their Genestealers out to destroy tanks and such...am i missing something? I mean they onl get armor penetration of 1d6+5S (Thats with the +1 Strength) and most of the vehichles I come across have a rear Armor value of 14. Even with the extra D3 to peirce it...it doesn't seem all that great to me.

Can someone explain how I am interpetting this rule wrong or at least give an example how this would work out. From what I can understand you would need to roll a 6 so you get the 1d3 roll and then you would have to roll a 3 (5 or 6) to penetrate. Those odds don't work out in the Nids favor.

Its also a possability that there are vehichles that have a back armor rating of 10 or less that I have not encountered...

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The only vehicles you encounter are Land Raiders and Monoliths?

The majority of vehicles in the game have a rear armor of 10.

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yeah, hardly any tanks have a armour rating of 14 in the back, and most 90% don't even have a front armour value of 14.
And once you consider how many dice you roll, you have a good chance of really messing up, or destroying most tanks

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When you assault a vehicle you always count as striking against its rear armor value - page 63. So when a genestealer assaults and rolls a 6 to penetrate, it will always result in a penetrating hit against AV10. As you seem to know, genestealers against AV14 doesn't work well.

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There isn't really much at all that is AV 14. Land Raiders, Leman Russes, Monoliths... I think that's it, at a glance.

Oh, and the new Space Wolf codex will have an AV 14 Dreadnought as a character.

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No, leman russ has AV 13 I think.
   
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???

Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...

Thanks for the info.

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Gamingnutrpg wrote:???

Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...

Thanks for the info.


sounds like you are about to have some fun.

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Gamingnutrpg wrote:???

Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...

Thanks for the info.

In 4th edition, the rule was that assaults hit whatever armor they were facing, instead of using the rear armor value, so it's _possible_ that someone just didn't pay attention when reading the 5th ed rules.

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Tyranids have problems against AV14 units, period. However, GSs completely own everything else.

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Yeah alot of the people who started in 3rd edition and 4th edition arent happy 'bout 5th edition. Could be them just hanging on to the past.
   
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That is true we were running on 4th for the first few month before the upgrade....I'll give them the benefit of the doubt....this time.

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