Black Legion 1500 pnts, competative

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**Cilithan**

Hey Dakka-mates,

I've been playing with this list, or subtle variations thereof for a while now. Im fairly confident it's competative, but still, I'd like to put it out here for some comments and criticism.

155 DP, MoS, Lash, Wings
165 DP, MoN, NR, Wings

255 10 CSM, 2 Melta, Rhino, HavocL
185 10 CSM, Las/Plas
256 7 PM, 2 Melta, AC w. PF, Rhino

119 3 Bikers, 2 Melta

150 Defiler
150 2 Obliterators
100 Predator (Ac/2HB)

9 KP's, 4 AV targets, 38 Mddls. Any advice?

Thnx, Cilithan

**Xav**

If you want to make this competive, your need to replace defiler, with 2 obliterators, and predator with two obliterators, then take away bike's alot more points then there worth, and add rhino, for middle CSM squad, you only need one lash DP add some more PM or some Noise marines, its not nice, but competive, CSM has turned into copy and paste.

**wuestenfux**

Xav is right. But the competitive CSM lists have some variety.
I'd drop the Bikers as they will hardly achieve what they are supposed to do.

**Xav**

Well, i think there is another form of competive CSM, ive been itching to try out, but i sold my CSM army so i cant.

Normal CSM dont get alot of love, realy and i know beserker spam in rhino's can be pretty effective, but obliterator and noise marine support, but what about normal CSM's in rhino's with mark of khorne, with double melta's lead by two lash princes, thats 40, WS 4 attacks on the charge, and two melta's, to deal with tanks, tell me what you think.