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As I have looked more and more into Black Templar, I am struck by the combat potential of their Sword Brethren Terminators with Lightning Claws. They can:

-Get Furious Charge (so S5 I5 on the charge) as veteran skill
-Always re-roll wounds and can alway re-roll to hit with "Accept Any Challenge".. all this without needing a character attached.
-Can use a Marshal's Ld 10 for Morale Checks.
-Can fit 8 in a LR Crusader, which can me made immune to Bright/Dark Lances and which is a dedicated transport (leaving HS slots free). Also, BT Land Raiders can get smoke with the old rules (i.e. all glancing hits for one turn, so almost guarantee it cannot be destroyed that turn, unless it gets multiple immobilized/weapons destroyed results or AP1 weapons roll 6s on damage table)


All in all, while a little pricey, this strikes me as one of the premiere CC units in the game, especially if they can get the charge (a likely event with their LRC ride). Throw in a few TH equipped Termies for anti-Vehicle work (S9 against armor due to Furious Charge) and they seem to have few weaknesses.

Any thoughts on this from veteran BT players/opponents?


I have been thinking about a BT list based around a "Braveheart" theme (i.e. EC= William Wallace, Crusader Squads=Highland warriors, Sword brethern = Wallace's bodyguard of "super" Highlanders, Attack Bikes = Highland light cavalry, etc.)... I think SM with Kilts, Woad blue faces, Tartan patterned Power armor, etc. might be pretty interesting theme wise and BT seem to follow the theme from a tactical perspective... i.e. powerful basic CC infantry with supporting troops for firepower/maneuver roles.

THESE THINGS ANNOY THE HELL OUT OF ME!!!

they always end up killing about half my army.

So yes, they are very good, and you should always use them.

They are pretty awesome.

reroll to hit and to wound? whats not to like?

If I didn't run a Deathwing-ish army, I'd probably run a BT army. Their terminators just sound like they kick ass. Two heavy weapons in each 5 man term squad? The CC options you just outlined? Now if only BT had a commander that made terms troops...

Rico.

Rico wrote:If I didn't run a Deathwing-ish army, I'd probably run a BT army. Their terminators just sound like they kick ass. Two heavy weapons in each 5 man term squad? The CC options you just outlined? Now if only BT had a commander that made terms troops...

Rico.

The funny thing is, if you max out on Terminators in a BT list, you can take more than Deathwing can. 2 Huge terminator command squads and 3 10 man squads. Templar Wing is scary.