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BUTLER, Mo. — Buy a truck and get a free AK-47 gun.
That's the deal a Missouri truck dealer is offering new customers who buy a pick-up truck in August.
Mark Muller, owner of Max Motors in Butler, says he knows people will be bothered by the promotion.
But not to worry, Muller is not handing out free guns. Instead, he will give buyers a voucher to use at a gun store after they obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon.
The AK-47 is an upgrade on a previous promotion in which Muller gave away vouchers for the price of a Caltec pistol.
The retail value of an AK-47 is $450 dollars but Muller says customers can spend their voucher on the gun of their choice.
Pffft! Unless you need a truck, pass. You can buy a fully automatic Kalashnikov in the bad neighborhood of any decently sized city. No stupid background check required.
warpcrafter wrote:Pffft! Unless you need a truck, pass. You can buy a fully automatic Kalashnikov in the bad neighborhood of any decently sized city. No stupid background check required.
Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
For the last time, Its not a fething Military-class weapon! Also you dont live in the good ol USA so stfu about our policys already.You are speaking about things that you know NOTHING about. You dont like em, great we get that. Now stop badmouthing people in the US and move on.
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
For the last time, Its not a fething Military-class weapon! Also you dont live in the good ol USA so stfu about our policys already.You are speaking about things that you know NOTHING about. You dont like em, great we get that. Now stop badmouthing people in the US and move on.
450 for an AK? Have they come down in price lately?
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jp400 wrote:Kinda... Depends on the brand and if its stamped/milled.
I would want mine with a custom handle, preferably with Dolly Parton and Jimi Hendrix, that way I can always hear their music over the screams of my enemies .
warpcrafter wrote:Pffft! Unless you need a truck, pass. You can buy a fully automatic Kalashnikov in the bad neighborhood of any decently sized city. No stupid background check required.
NO
YOU
CAN'T
1. Only people with technical skill can convert an AK-47 (and Jp400 with just his left pinkie and a pair tweezers I seen it!)
2. Your other option is to buy them from a Mexican cartel which is getting theirs from Venezuela.
You're thinking of semi auto AKs. There's a big damn difference.
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
For the last time, Its not a fething Military-class weapon! Also you dont live in the good ol USA so stfu about our policys already.You are speaking about things that you know NOTHING about. You dont like em, great we get that. Now stop badmouthing people in the US and move on.
I agree with Cheese that we don't need more military style weapons in the hands of civilians.
Once upon a time, I told myself it's better to be smart than lucky. Every day, the world proves me wrong a little more.
If I had to, I'd much rather be shot in the head by a well aimed semi-automatic rifle than be peppered in the groin, ear, kneecap, buttock, wrist and little finger by the incompetent bunhead firing a fully-automatic weapon, whilst bleeding to death in great pain because he couldn't actually hit a barn-door with a banjo.
"If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss."
Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
he will give buyers a voucher to use at a gun store after they obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon.
You have to have background checks and classes to get a Concealed Weapon License. And it's been proven in states with CCW that crime rates go down.
Sounds like most people are just jealous of the freedom that the USA gives it's people with the rights to bear arms. Unlike most Country's that take away there peoples right to defend themselves
Civilian AK-47s that you can buy at a gun store are not military-grade weapons. That's why they are called civilian versions. They are not fully automatic. I know it sounds scary to people who live outside the US and have probably never seen a gun in real life before, but lets get real. A lot of people just hear the word "assault rifle" or "AK-47" and immediately get freaked out because they have no idea what they're talking about.
Giving someone a voucher to buy a weapon after they've jumped through all the hoops it takes to get a concealed weapon license? That's about as responsible as it gets (I am being serious). You don't need a concealed carry permit to get a civilian AK-47 anyway, so really this guy is encouraging going above and beyond what is required.
I have no problem with people who have taken a concealed carry permit course owning civilian AK-47s. You would never carry an AK around with a concealed carry permit anyway.
It's not hard to get a civilian AK modded to fire full auto. Anyone with experience in a machine shop and proper schematics/diagrams can do it. Trust me, I/my friends know... (mega-hint)
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be able to have a legal civilian version, just because it's possible to illegally modify one. You can illegally modify just about any semi-automatic weapon relatively easy if you know how to do it. That doesn't mean anyone who owns a civilian AK is going to modify one. I'd guess that people with concealed carry permits would be the most unlikely to modify a weapon like that, since they are likely to be scrutinized a lot more, and risk losing their license.
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Relapse wrote:Why is it when the news shows talk about semi automatic weapons they always cut to a clip of people blasting with fully automatic weapons?
Becuase it gives the average,uninformed citizen somthing to shake their heads,waggle their tounges and hide under their beds over.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
he will give buyers a voucher to use at a gun store after they obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon.
You have to have background checks and classes to get a Concealed Weapon License. And it's been proven in states with CCW that crime rates go down.
Sounds like most people are just jealous of the freedom that the USA gives it's people with the rights to bear arms. Unlike most Country's that take away there peoples right to defend themselves
I'm not jealous of anybody's weapons. You can easily acquire a gun over here, for sporting and hunting purposes.
But when are you going to need an AK-47? For when zombies attack you? When twenty armed people attack your house?
I fully support the right to bear arms, but not the more dangerous weapons like pump-action shotguns or assault rifles.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made.
Cheese Elemental wrote:I fully support the right to bear arms, but not the more dangerous weapons like pump-action shotguns or assault rifles.
Pump-action shotguns are a perfectly legitimate hunting and sport shooting weapon, and there's no reason not to allow civilians to own them. Civilian versions of assault rifles aren't really any more dangerous than any other semi-automatic rifle. I guess it depends on what you think makes a gun more "dangerous" though. Do you just mean a weapon that shoots fast? A weapon that fires a more powerful round? Or what? Civilian assault rifles are not machine guns and they aren't fully automatic, if that's what you're thinking.
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, because America needs even more military-class weapons in the hands of civilians who might well abuse them.
This guy is going to be the place for criminals to go; get a truck to carry bodies/loot and a gun to procure said bodies/loot.
he will give buyers a voucher to use at a gun store after they obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon.
You have to have background checks and classes to get a Concealed Weapon License. And it's been proven in states with CCW that crime rates go down.
Sounds like most people are just jealous of the freedom that the USA gives it's people with the rights to bear arms. Unlike most Country's that take away there peoples right to defend themselves
I'm not jealous of anybody's weapons. You can easily acquire a gun over here, for sporting and hunting purposes.
But when are you going to need an AK-47? For when zombies attack you? When twenty armed people attack your house?
I fully support the right to bear arms, but not the more dangerous weapons like pump-action shotguns or assault rifles.
Pump action shotguns?? ok,while I can clearly see the "dangerous" aspect of ANY shotgun,I fail to see the connection between a pump action shot gun and an AK-47,or is it simply due to the fact you can fire more than one round with out having to reload that you have a problem with?
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Here I go once again to try to inform some of you who are abit off base in fact:
Any weapon that you can buy off the shelf here in the United States is NOT even if it says "Mil-Spec" a military grade weapon or a True Assault Rifle!
A true Assault Rifle is small shoulder-fired rifles capable of select-fire (switching from full-auto to semi-auto), firing a cartridge of intermediate power, meaning more powerful than a pistol cartridge but less so than a full-power rifle cartridge such as a 7.62x51 or 30-06.
The stuff you buy off the shelf at the gun store are Semi-automatic sporting rifles with a cosmetic kit to look like a assault rifle. (You can do a google search and it will take you 5 seconds to find that this is correct)
If you honestly think that this makes them real assault rifles then by your train of thought these should be banned also:
As for the pump shotgun question guys, the answer is as simple as that Cheese is a kid and will believe whatever his daddy and the government tell him is evil.
After all, Pump shotguns are so Evil!
(To prove a point)
(MUST SEE! THIS DUDE IS AWSOME!! Also shows some things that shotguns can be used for)
@Frazzled: LoL. I know how, but dont. I have quite a few $$$ wrapped up in firearms and I dont want the Feds to take them away. Plus the newer ones are damn near impossible to do without a kit. The Ak Lower is completly geared up different then the older ones in the US and the feds like it that way. It would be like trying to turn an AR 15 to full auto that isnt Sear compatable.
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I'm not jealous of anybody's weapons. You can easily acquire a gun over here, for sporting and hunting purposes.
But when are you going to need an AK-47? For when zombies attack you? When twenty armed people attack your house?
I fully support the right to bear arms, but not the more dangerous weapons like pump-action shotguns or assault rifles.
That's not true! I saw on the news that Australia confiscated all weapons, and because of what I saw on tv, I know all about the gun laws in Australia!
Sorry bout that, Cheese, but I just wanted to prove a point. The show I saw on tv was really saying all those things about Australians having their weapons taken and destroyed. It includes clips of pistols and rifles being chopped up and melted. The point of the story was that there were no weapons allowed the average citizen under any circumstance.
You live a long way from the US and a lot of what you read and see on tv could very well be filtered according to whatever buttons the guy doing the story is trying to push with you.
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