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hey ! i just built a guard veteran list, and wanted to hear a few opinions on it


HQ
CCS + Missile Launcher + 2x Plasma Gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber ( i just love the extra shots of these )
160

TROOPS

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
160

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
160

Veteran Squad + 3x Grenade Launcher + Autocannon
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Grenade Launcher + HB
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

ELITE

Marbo (doesn´t fit in there, i like the idea of a loner stalking the enemy before a major armoured assault )
65

FAST ATTACK

Vendetta Gunship
130

Vendetta Gunship
130

Hellhound
130

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ Battle Tank + Heavy Stubber
160

Griffon
75

-> exacty 1500 points

Looks like every other mech vets list ever, with the addition of a random griffon that will never add anything to your games, and Marbo.

Lose both, and one of the fast attack choices, add in a platoon of regular guardsmen. It makes your list more fluffy and is great for holding objectives.

-Drop the CCS to 4 meltas
-Drop the heavy weapons from the Vets and give one of the squads 3xPGs and the rest 3xMeltas
-Drop the Griffon; why?... Use the points to upgrade the LRMBT to a Vanq with Lascannon or drop some Heavy Stubbers to up it to an Exec with PC Sponsons
-Get a Vend if you can; you need the long range anti-tank


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..and get rid of Marbo. Cool fluff wise but will be useless in your games

A lot of people on this site only use veterans with meltas or plasma guns. I think they're probably the best on mobile, BS4 units. Upgrade to these guns if you have the points. On the CCS, 4 special weapons is more useful than two and a heavy. Feel free to keep heavy bolters in the vet squads though, they go well with the chimera's weapons if you want to stand back and shoot.

I agree that Marbo and the griffon seem pretty out of place. If you really, really want them a hydra would be better than a griffon.


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Obviously, taking marbo and/or the griffin away would be the way to make points for more guns in the squads.

Canonness Rory wrote:Looks like every other mech vets list ever, with the addition of a random griffon that will never add anything to your games, and Marbo.

Lose both, and one of the fast attack choices, add in a platoon of regular guardsmen. It makes your list more fluffy and is great for holding objectives.

soooo, i tried to add some guardsmen, what do you think of it ?


HQ
Company Command Squad
Creed + 4 Melta
-> in Chimera ( with Multi Laser and Heavy Flamer ) + Heavy Stubber
245


TR
Infantry Platoon
-> Platoon Command Squad
+ 3 Flamer
-> Infantry Squad
+ Autocannon + Plasma Gun
-> Infantry Squad
+ Autocannon + Plasma Gun
195


Infantry Platoon
-> Platoon Command Squad
+ 3 Flamer
-> Infantry Squad
+ HB
-> Infantry Squad
+ HB
170

Veteran Squad
+ 3 Melta
-> in Chimera ( with Multi Laser and Heavy Flamer ) + Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad
+ 3 Melta
-> in Chimera ( with Multi Laser and Heavy Flamer ) + Heavy Stubber
165

FA
Vendetta Gunship
130

Vendetta Gunship
130

Hellhound
130


HS
1 LRBT + Heavy Stubber, no side sponsions
160

1310

Maybe but now you're trying to split yourself too much. I'd just drop the Inf Platoons and get more Vets (esp some to ride in the Vendettas). Also you really should upgrade that LRMBT probably to a Demolisher or Executioner


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...and what's Creed in there for? If you want you can keep him in and then use him to get the Demolisher to outflank

got a new one which i´lll test these days :
should do quite well i suppose...

HQ
CCS + 3x Melta gun + Officer of the Fleet + Bodyguard
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
190

TROOPS

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Plasma Gun + Autocannon
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
190


FAST ATTACK

Vendetta Gunship
130

Vendetta Gunship
130

Hellhound
130

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ Battle Tank + Heavy Stubber
160

Hydra Flak Tank
75

-> 1500 points

Loose the Bodyguard, use the points to upgrade the LRBT to a Demolisher.

I would drop the Hydra and Bodyguard, mostly to upgrade the LR to an Executioner. I would drop the Stubbers. Heavy Flamer/Multi-laser is plenty of firepower. Hellhounds aren't that great. I prefer Bane Wolves, if you are dead set on using one of those. It can fire its main and secondary while going 12", which is nice. Otherwise, I would scrap it for points for another Russ.

ratatviskr wrote:got a new one which i´lll test these days :
should do quite well i suppose...

HQ
CCS + 3x Melta gun + Officer of the Fleet + Bodyguard
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
190

Ditch the Body guard, get another meltagun.

ratatviskr wrote:
TROOPS

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

Veteran Squad + 3x Melta gun
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
165

These are all good.

ratatviskr wrote:
Veteran Squad + 3x Plasma Gun + Autocannon
in Chimera with Heavy Stubber
190

Give this squad Harker.

ratatviskr wrote:
FAST ATTACK

Vendetta Gunship
130

Vendetta Gunship
130

Hellhound
130

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ Battle Tank + Heavy Stubber
160

Hydra Flak Tank
75

-> 1500 points

Rest looks good.

No vets in Vends?

Vets in Vends in a Mech list aren't ideal, I have found.