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I've noticed on here people are very nervous about posting specific rules and point costs and it got me to thinking how in the world does Army Builder, a non-GW company, get around posting point costs in their program? Anyone know?

army builder is the tool you use to make army lists, thae actual army list files are all fanmade. AB themselves dont do any of that work. thats how i was told it worked.

But they still charge for a tool which allows the infringement of IP. I'm sure lawyers have battled it out, I would just love to know how it works.

By your reasoning GW should be able to sue Microsoft over Excel as well. It's as noted above. GW can't sue Lone Wolf over Army Builder because it contains none of their IP.

ahh, good point.

Why is it then people on these boards get bent out of shape when you post point values on army lists? It's kind of the same thing isn't it? except that perhaps in this form a person is presenting the material to the general public.

2000 Volts wrote:ahh, good point.

Why is it then people on these boards get bent out of shape when you post point values on army lists? It's kind of the same thing isn't it? except that perhaps in this form a person is presenting the material to the general public.

Links to threads?

Because it's the forum rules, that's why. Go give them a read and you will see it.

I can't point out any threads off the bat which people have scolded the OP for posting point values but I've seen it, probably in about 1 out of every 10 army lists I see posted.



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And to Ghaz - "becuase I said so" may be a reason but not a very good one, and not the true why.

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For those wondering about the GW vs The Makers of Army Builder I refer you to this informative video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNDHTfdn1A

Please watch all of it to answer your questions.

For a great discussion straight from the horses mouth, check out the D6 Generation podcast episode 35.

Lol... if GW sued Microsoft for Excel and the makers of AB for the infringement issue, they would have to sue all makers of pencils and paper as well.

Todosi has it right, listen to that episode of the D6G. They have an interview with one of the people from the company that makes army builder.

Awesome, I DL'ed th podcast, now just have to listen to it. Thank you very much, this is exactly what I was looking for.

2000 Volts wrote:And to Ghaz - "becuase I said so" may be a reason but not a very good one, and not the true why.

When it comes to these forums, it is indeed a good reason. Matter of fact, it is the only reason that matters. Posting on these forums is a privilege, not a right. If Yakface doesn't want us posting copyrighted material or pics of the test Dark Eldar models by Juan Diaz then that is his perogative and he doesn't need a reason why.

Yea, just like WMD was a good reason for invading Iraq right? It's blind obedience like that which gets nations into horribly draining wars and gives rise to some of the worst atrocities in the world.

Now, in terms of the answer to my question, "becuase I said so" is not a very good answer any way you look at it. It does not in any way explain why points aren't allowed (not like anyone really abides by that rule) on army lists.

However, thanks to wonderful, intelligent and meaningful posters like shellfishguy who can actually answer a question with an answer instead of a statement, my question has been answered. Therefore, This thread is done. Thank you for your time Ghaz, now you can go get a life.

Wow. You are getting completely worked up over nothing. If this friendly discussion on a forum gets you this upset as to compare forum rules with war, and those who follow said rules with atrocities, you should take your own advice and get a life. Seriously.

I'm sorry but Ghaz has been anything but friendly, he's been arogant and unhelpful.

As for comparing forum rules to war - you have completley missed the point. It's accepting "becuase I said so" as a valid answer which I take issue with, becuase that same blind passive following is the same mentality which sparked Iraq and, even worse, the holocaust.

To say one has nothing to do with the other is ignorance.

Were not talking about a country, this is a forum for us to discuss wargaming, and if the adminstrator says you cant post point costs because GW get there knickers in a twist and sue people over stupid gak, then you cant post point cost, look on most forums and there be the same rules.

Because it's the forum rules, that's why. Go give them a read and you will see it.

That's what Ghaz said... if that's considered arrogant and unhelpful then you've got REALLY thin skin...


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Linky to the rules in case you need them... which I'm sure you don't... but I'm being helpful!

Sigh.

There has been enough information presented in this thread to answer the OP's question.

Everything other than that is just a flame war...

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