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Hello all, heres my new list for my Mentors

HQ
Captain
-Combi-Melta
-Lightning Claw

Command Squad
-1 Power Sword, 1 Power fist
-Apothecary
-Company Champion
-Company Standard
-Razorback
-Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter


Elite
Sternguard
-9 Man + Sgt
-Powerfist
-Rhino

Troops
Tactical Squad
-9 Man + Sgt
-Meltagun
-Powerfist
-Rhino

Tactical Squad
-9 Man + Sgt
-Meltagun
-Powerfist
-Rhino

Tactical Squad
-9 Man + Sgt
-Meltagun
-Powerfist
-Rhino

Scout Squad
-4 Man + Sgt
-4 Snipers, 1 Heavy Bolter
-Camo Cloaks

Heavy Support

Predator
-Dakka Style

Predator
-Dakka Style

Devastator Squad
-4 Man + Sgt
-2 Missile Launcher
-Plasma Cannon
-1 other Heavy Bolter / Plasma / Lascannon

The Heavy Support im up in the air about...

What do yall think?

Anyone?

The Devastator unit isn't big enough. You'll lose your heavy weapons early. Maybe drop the Scouts and fill out the Devastator unit a bit.

You also need more anti-armor weapons. The Melta's are great but lack the range. Put a couple Lascannons in the Dev unit as insurance.

Drop the dev squad beef up the Scout squad, give it camo cloaks and ML.
Give a heavy weapon to tac squad, it might not get used but its some long range, use MM if your in 12" its great, and fits in your melta theme.

thanks for the replies

Xav wrote: Drop the dev squad beef up the Scout squad, give it camo cloaks and ML.
Give a heavy weapon to tac squad, it might not get used but its some long range, use MM if your in 12" its great, and fits in your melta theme.

Scouts actually have Camo cloaks, must have left it off...
as for the ML i worry about the range, if i use the HB, i can't make my snipers useless as they will have the same range.

I think Lascannons and MMs would be a good fit for the Tacs

Thanks!

upgrade your razor back to twin linked assault cannons, so much better than twin bolters.

I would drop the dev squad to upgrade the preds to 3 laz pill boxes.

GammaTau wrote:Sternguard-9 Man + Sgt-Powerfist-Rhino

SG are all about their great ammo and opportunities for other guns. I'd dump the PF, as you really want these guys firing their guns, not in assault. Upgrade two of them to HFs or MGs at least, depending on the target environment.

GammaTau wrote:Devastator Squad -4 Man + Sgt-2 Missile Launcher-Plasma Cannon-1 other Heavy Bolter / Plasma / Lascannon

Range and purpose. Devs should have mixed weps ... meaning the geniouses at GW package them so you have to buy 4 boxes to get things to match.
When you can get ahold of 2 more MLs, then field this unit as Devs, 8 men strong. Until then, its point efficient to field them as SG with 2 MLs ... costs 15 more points but then they become Sternguard, with all of the other great ammo.

Man... this list just blows.... not 16 demolition charges, not 1 demolition charge, but zero.... how are you gonna win without demolition charges? :-P.

In all seriousness.... dump the combi-Melta and lightning claw on the captain.... it's dumb. Give him a Thunderhammer and Stormshield.... much better opttions.

Command squads are iffy, they cost a lot for what they do. But then, you never have gotten to use one in the game, as Guardsmen Marbo keeps knocking on their door and delivering a package to them. "Special Delivery, sign here please." "I don't remember ordering the Sears Catalo...." BOOM!

Your sternguard units need two combimeltas in them. I know.... my guardsmen and my space puippies don't have tanks, but eventually you're going to have to fight a tank somewhere along the way, and you'll need combi-meltas.

Consider this.... for 20 points more than your three 10 man tac squads in rhinos, you can take 4 units of

Tactical Squad-181
5 Men+SGT
SGT
-Powerfist, Combi-Melta
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Sure, you lose a whopping 6 guys out of the trade, but you got an extra vehichle, and 4 extra twin linked heavy bolters......

Scouts Suck! With Camo cloaks, they're the same points as a regular marine and have WS 3 BS 3, and a 4+ Sv...... they suck! Pinning blows, and you've spent 100 points on it..... combine this with your worthless devaestator squad, and you could get something nice.... but more on that later.

Congratulations, the predators in the list are the only thing I don't think you need to change! And are the only models you don't have :-P.

Your Devestators Suck suck suck suck suck. Sure, against my armies that have no tanks, they're decent, but against tanks you're basically wasting two of your shots each round of shooting.

Remaking the list, I'd do.

Captain-140
-Powerfist, Stormshield

Sternguard-225
5 Men + SGT
-2 Combi-Meltas
Sergeant
-Powerfist
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Sternguard-225
5 Men + SGT
-2 Combi-Meltas
Sergeant
-Powerfist
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Sternguard-225
5 Men + SGT
-2 Combi-Meltas
Sergeant
-Powerfist
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Tactical Squad-181
5 Men + SGT
Sergeant
-Powerfist, Combi-Melta
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Tactical Squad-181
5 Men + SGT
Sergeant
-Powerfist, Combi-Melta
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Vanguard Veterans-220
5 Men+ Sergeant
-Meltabombs
Sergeant
-Powerfist
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Vanguard Veterans-195
4 Men+ Sergeant
-Meltabombs
Sergeant
-Powerfist
Razorback
-Heavy Bolter

Predator-95
-Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Predator-95
-Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Predator-95
-Autocannon, Heavy Bolter Sponsons


That's 10 Vehichles, 3 Autocannons, 8 Combi-Meltas, 8 Powerfists, 9 Meltabombs for killing tanks, and 13 heavy bolters for killing infantry, in addition to the fact that the majority or your guys have 2 attacks base now and the sternguard ammo.

Add all that chocolaty goodness to the fact that you're only losing 12 infantry, and gaining 3 vehichles in exchange.... and you just won the golden ticket.



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Oh, and remember, I'm only mean because I care

Angron that was mean and half that advice was bad, people dont post list up here to get them replaced, no they post them to get them improved.

Scouts are good, with camo cloaks in ruins you get a 3+ Cover save and inflitration, guns that can rend and pin.

Well command squads are iffy, id change the Captain to Chapter Master, and the Command squad to Honour guard which are very killy.

You could beef out the scout squad by dropping the devaster squad.
Or you could add another predator.


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Angron that was mean and half that advice was bad, people dont post list up here to get them replaced, no they post them to get them improved.

Scouts are good, with camo cloaks in ruins you get a 3+ Cover save and inflitration, guns that can rend and pin.

Well command squads are iffy, id change the Captain to Chapter Master, and the Command squad to Honour guard which are very killy.

You could beef out the scout squad by dropping the devaster squad.
Or you could add another predator.