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Well I'm probably answering my own question, but doesn't a codex always over ride the BRB in directly contradictory situations?

Crisis Suits say in their entry they can move and shoot RF weapons but not heavy weapons. However, in the BRB models with jetpacks have "Relentless" which always models to always count as stationary for firing.

So are ASS outdated now or does Tau codex over ride relentless?

EDIT: Im a Tau newb obv. ASS is for Broadsides who are NOT relentless. Crisis is always mobile huh?

Codex over rules BGB by specifying that they can't. so they can't use heavy weapons on the move.

Um.. Crisis suits have no heavy weapon choices

BlueDagger wrote:Um.. Crisis suits have no heavy weapon choices

You fail at reading english. But i fail at typing english.

Really all i was asking, along with an example *that turned out to suck, was if the codex always over rules the BRB. My question got answered by the helpful fellow above you.

That stuff at the bottom was just me reading the codex as I was typing sorry to confuse you!

Way to totally be helpful and useful and...hmmm.

Dracos wrote:
Codex does not override rulebook. Specific rules (generally those found in codex tend to be more specific) override general rules in case of conflict.

.... assumed there was a heavy weapon (or what would the point be of asking) checked the codex and no zip. Only thing that relentless is good for is marker light drones which are taken by Crisis suits since they inherit the there controllers type they can fire the marker light on the move.

edit ...Very well Kirsanth, In This Case the Codex over rules the BGB with it specific rules.

Its actually funny because I think the Tau Codex came out before the 5th edition.

In the Tau codex it states clearly they cannot move and fire their heavy weapons.

Tau are the only race as far as I know that have Jetpacks, unless there is another that I do not know about it Tau are it.


So basically they wrote a rule into the BRB specifically for TAU equipment, that the Codex specifically says is incorrect.

Good Job.

In fact there really is not a need to put the Jetpack rules in the BRB because th Tau codex has it and theyre the only ones that can have it so why would you put it in there?



Yeah, WTC.

Yeah exactly.

Broadsides do not have jet packs and are not relentless. They need the ASS to move and shoot.
Crisis suits can never take heavy weapons, so there is no need for the clause (clarification) under XV8 suits that they cannot fire heavy weapons. They can still move+shoot rapid fire.
XV25 suits are relentless, and can take a heavy weapon (shas'ui with markerlight)

I've always wondered tho.. are marker drones taken with infantry squads relentless? It would make sense thematically that they were, but RAW seems to indicate no.

AFAIK the only thing it does is allow you to move and fire with a Marker Light Drone. Thats it.

Stealth suits can move and fire markerlights.

They put in the rulebook effect for marker drones as well as stealth suits firing Markers. since their unit type is jetpack they gain relentless.

Red_Lives wrote:They put in the rulebook effect for marker drones as well as stealth suits firing Markers. since their unit type is jetpack they gain relentless.

Must be pointed out that drones are only jetpacks type if that's the type of the unit they were bought with (or if they come on there own). When with infantry they counts as infantry which is stupid but also the rules.

That a good point. I dunno now about the marker light drones then Ill look at my Tau codex.

So it was put in for one unit i guess

Hollismason wrote:That a good point. I dunno now about the marker light drones then Ill look at my Tau codex.

So it was put in for one unit i guess

Don't get me wrong I can see it being use full additions to if you take marker light drones with criss battle suits or stealth teams it works really nicely (since the drones count as being networked marker lights). So you get to boost the units shooting power on the move.

Still in a purely speculative sense; since jet pack have more or less specifically been written for the Tau; we can expect the next codex to include heavy weapons to stick on there jetpack infantry ... That or it will end up on the dark eldar, Scourges would be useful if they were jetpack ... they'd also be massively over powered with 4, BS 4, dark lances (same as bright lance but er dark)

Putting the jet pack rules in the main rulebook allows other units in the future to have the rule. It is a logical fallacy to conclude Tau XV-8s will get heavy weapon options.

One needs to carefully parse the consolidated suit details in the Codex: Tau Empire book. IIRC the details allowed stealth suits to be able to move and fire marker drones then move in the assault phase, but prevented the XV-8s from doing the same. It has been a while since I read that page and so I may be confusing the rules from 4th edition.