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2009/07/23 23:14:02
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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So me and a buddy of mine who plays Tau have a bit of a conundrum. Since all his tanks are skimmers and can just "fly" over difficunt terrain, could they fly over other units as well? We didn't have a codex/rulebook available and I figured I would get a quicker answer here.
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2009/07/23 23:16:40
Subject: Re:Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Yes they can fly over enemy models, but you have to be able to place the model on the table (still on stand) at the end of its movement. It cannot end its movement with the hull less than 1" away from an enemy model.
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2009/07/23 23:23:00
Subject: Re:Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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So he can fly over me, turn, and shoot... Maybe I'll just forget I asked 
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2009/07/24 00:11:33
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Tinkering Tech-Priest
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Yes he can! Bad luck, matey! If you play IG, maybe consider investing in a few Hydra Flakkers... That'll stuff his skimmers right up!
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2009/07/24 00:17:00
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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Ardensfax wrote:Yes he can! Bad luck, matey! If you play IG, maybe consider investing in a few Hydra Flakkers... That'll stuff his skimmers right up!
Oh one day...one day...
First I gotta stock up on Chimera's for the time being...
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2009/07/24 01:17:00
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I love skimmers...I loooove skimmers. 
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2009/07/24 09:39:32
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Ardensfax wrote:Yes he can! Bad luck, matey! If you play IG, maybe consider investing in a few Hydra Flakkers... That'll stuff his skimmers right up!
Hydras only work against skimmers moving flat out. The only unit this affects in the tau codex is a unit of Piranhas. All the others have wargear that makes them an obscure target, which Flak Tanks do not affect.
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2009/07/24 15:48:47
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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Anyone else feel that you end up playing the Tau's rulebook rather than the Tau themselves?
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2009/07/24 18:18:13
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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The Hammer of Witches
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What is that supposed to mean?
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2009/07/24 21:33:36
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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It's a joke thats based entirely on truth. The Tau have some special rule or piece of wargear that makes them an enourmous headache to kill that comes at little to no consiquence(sp?) to them.
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2009/07/25 03:43:35
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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They're an alien race, what do you expect? If you really want to see special rules, read an eldar codex. Even marines have skimmers.
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2009/07/25 04:38:37
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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The Hammer of Witches
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CrashUSAR wrote:It's a joke thats based entirely on truth. The Tau have some special rule or piece of wargear that makes them an enourmous headache to kill that comes at little to no consiquence(sp?) to them.
Okay... and given that absolutely nothing in this thread references Tau special rules, why did you even bring it up in the first place?
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2009/07/25 04:40:15
Subject: Re:Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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Tau are a bit obnoxious, but they're nothing compared to the eldar, there is literally no reliable way to kill an eldar vehicle with orkz. And they can take like 8 in a 1500 point game 
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2009/07/25 05:08:40
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Lootas?
Also, the Tau honestly do have way more special rules than is sensible. Look at the trouble all their special rules get them into in this forum; they just went overboard with them. 20 different types of sensors really aren't needed.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/07/25 05:30:31
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Lootas?
Also, the Tau honestly do have way more special rules than is sensible. Look at the trouble all their special rules get them into in this forum; they just went overboard with them. 20 different types of sensors really aren't needed.
Well of course we need the:
-Difficult Terrain Sensors
-Heat Sensors
-Greater Good Potential Sensors
-Altitude Sensors
-Moisture Sensors
-Sensor Sensors
-Radar Detector
- CB Radio
All to maximize technological advantage for the Greater Good of course. 
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2009/07/25 08:55:20
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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Che-Vito wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:-Sensor Sensors
-CB Radio
 I dunno if it's funny because I'm intoxicated or because it's just funny... Either way, I lol'd.
But seriously, me and said friend play today at the shop, and he stumbled upon a rule he didn't know he had for his Hammerhead. Apparently he can equip it with something that if it's more than 12" away from anything (my Russ in this case), it's an obscured target and he gets a 4+ save. Really? I nearly tank shocked it just to get rid of that save...
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2009/07/25 09:05:00
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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They're called disruption pods, and they're practically an essential upgrade for all Tau vehicles. Multi-trackers are also popular.
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2009/07/25 09:52:51
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Ridcully wrote:They're called disruption pods, and they're practically an essential upgrade for all Tau vehicles. Multi-trackers are also popular.
What and WHAT?
thank god i have never played with or against tau....
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2009/07/25 10:05:26
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Tau Player
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It's a cover save. I'd rather be targeting a vehicle with a cover save than a fast vehicle with a holo-field (4+ cover save if they move above 12". 2d6 damage table; pick the lowest).
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2009/07/25 11:06:59
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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Oh if he (and you apparently) move flat-out, aren't all hits glancing? Again...fighting the rules more than the units themselves... Oh well...
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2009/07/25 11:36:48
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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What makes you think i'm a Tau player?
Most races have a few odd rules up their sleeves. It doesn't mean the players themselves have not employed tactics to win. Assault ramps would be quite useless to a race as h2h inept as Tau.
Your glancing hit rule is however from a previous edition. As far as i'm aware, there is no such rule in 5th edition.
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2009/07/25 12:56:57
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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He said that he has to move flat-out for the glancing rule, so I believed him...he can be a bit scatter-brained though... And yeah, all races have silly rules, it just seems like they went a bit overboard with the Tau.
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2009/07/25 15:41:44
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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The Hammer of Witches
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Oh please, stop whining. Once you have a little bit of play experience under your belt you'll see that Tau are not at all over top in that regard. Or are next we going to hear you complaining about extra armor and smoke launchers on Imperial tanks means you're fighting their rules more than them?
CrashUSAR wrote:Oh if he (and you apparently) move flat-out, aren't all hits glancing? Again...fighting the rules more than the units themselves... Oh well...
Okay, I get it, that's just the voice of inexperience talking. Anyway, that rule was from 4th edition.
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2009/07/25 15:58:24
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
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Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, stop whining. Once you have a little bit of play experience under your belt you'll see that Tau are not at all over top in that regard. Or are next we going to hear you complaining about extra armor and smoke launchers on Imperial tanks means you're fighting their rules more than them?
CrashUSAR wrote:Oh if he (and you apparently) move flat-out, aren't all hits glancing? Again...fighting the rules more than the units themselves... Oh well...
Okay, I get it, that's just the voice of inexperience talking. Anyway, that rule was from 4th edition.
I believe in 5th edition, Skimmers that move 12" or more are only hit on a 6+. The whole "only glancing" deal is gone.
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2009/07/25 16:24:39
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Yep, the glancing rule is gone. The cover save for moving flat out is it's spiritual replacement.
While disruption pods are a must have now, I wouldn't say tau vehicles are better off now; at least not anymore than every other vehicle.
Losing the glancing hits (and the reroll for immobilized results) sort of evens it out.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/07/25 19:24:02
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Dakka Veteran
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Hm, well I'll definately bring this thread to his attention and have a read hrough his codex. Thanks for the input guys.
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2009/07/26 03:22:28
Subject: Skimmer vehicles goin over stuff
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Tau Player
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Che-Vito wrote:Bookwrack wrote:Oh please, stop whining. Once you have a little bit of play experience under your belt you'll see that Tau are not at all over top in that regard. Or are next we going to hear you complaining about extra armor and smoke launchers on Imperial tanks means you're fighting their rules more than them?
CrashUSAR wrote:Oh if he (and you apparently) move flat-out, aren't all hits glancing? Again...fighting the rules more than the units themselves... Oh well...
Okay, I get it, that's just the voice of inexperience talking. Anyway, that rule was from 4th edition.
I believe in 5th edition, Skimmers that move 12" or more are only hit on a 6+. The whole "only glancing" deal is gone.
It doesn't affect to hit rolls, the vehicle just gets a regular 4+ cover save. But any vehicle that moves >6" causes 6+ to hit rolls when assaulted.
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