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From an Email I recieved:

"Earlier this year, Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y. introduced H. J. Res. 5, a bill that would repeal the Constitution’s 22nd Amendment which prohibits a president from being elected to more than two terms in office, thus potentially paving the way to make Barack Obama president for life. Not surprisingly, the corporate media currently caught up in Obama-mania has not covered this story. "

Confirmed here: http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj5/show wrote:
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
CURRENT 111ST SESSION OF CONGRESS
OpenCongress Summary:
H.J.Res. 5 is a Constitutional amendment to remove the limit on the number of terms one may serve as President. It effectively would repeal the 22nd Amendment, which was approved by Congress in 1947 and ratified by the states in 1951. Over the past six congressional sessions, several members of Congress have introduced similar legislation, including Sen. Harry Reid in 1989 ( S.J.Res. 36). As is likely the case in the 111th Congress, the resolutions have never proceeded out of committee. Furthermore, given its past history, it is not likely that such resolutions have been or are currently tied to any specific presidential session.

Seeing as how it's been tried several times in the past without success, I doubt it'll pass. Still nice to know about, though.

At some point maybe no one will notice, and the bill will get through... well Obama can dream cant he?

Obama talks in his sleep sometimes. "Change... the laws so I can rule the world."

Wow, people REALLY dig this Osama...I mean Obama dude, don't they?

Wrexasaur wrote:At some point maybe no one will notice, and the bill will get through... well Obama can dream cant he?

Obama talks in his sleep sometimes. "Change... the laws so I can rule the world."

Thats not how it works. That would require a constitutional amendment. Supermajority vote and (IIRC) same vote by the states themselves, not just the Washington lapdogs.

I for one welcome our new socialist, er enlightened overlords, and am certain that there won't be any civil war at all if this is tried. Really. No that sounds you hear is not me digging a hole to drop certain items into. See I was robbed recently by very particular thieves, and I have to work through that issue by digging this hole...

Frazzled wrote:

Wrexasaur wrote:At some point maybe no one will notice, and the bill will get through... well Obama can dream cant he?

Obama talks in his sleep sometimes. "Change... the laws so I can rule the world."

Thats not how it works. That would require a constitutional amendment. Supermajority vote and (IIRC) same vote by the states themselves, not just the Washington lapdogs.

I for one welcome our new socialist, er enlightened overlords, and am certain that there won't be any civil war at all if this is tried. Really. No that sounds you hear is not me digging a hole to drop certain items into. See I was robbed recently by very particular thieves, and I have to work through that issue by digging this hole...

LOL
Make it a little bigger, I have issues I'd like to work through by burying them too.......

Won't happen though so I am not worried. Its not like we're Honduras and the President would try to violate the Constitution or anything, after all he's very supportive of what occurred there...oh wait...er...Cough cough

I for one welcome our new enlightened overlords...

You would say something like that Frazzled... prepare to open your eyes to the future...



Teh Lizard calls the shots now.

Dear God Jim Morrison was right. All Hail the Lizard King.

This would never happen. Sane democrats realize that this type of tampering with the constitution will just lead to a future Dick Cheney appointing himself to another term. A news item without significance but to raise the hackles on the right.

It has some significance. The bill was actually introduced...by a Democrat.

I love how everyone assumes that this would lead to a tacit 3rd term. Especially since there's only ever been one 3 term President in history, and this amendment has only existed since 1947.

Edit: This guy has tried to get this passed 6 times. Every year he's been in office; including while Bush was President.

How funny, I remember this same EXACT thing being pushed when Clinton was pres. OH and Bush Jr AND Sr. Odd how I remember Sr. when I was in grade school but I remember that. KingClinton and so on. The only time Ill believe this will happen is when we all get uber screwed and the North American Union actually happens

Realistically, it'd take about 10 years for a Constitutional Amendment to be enacted.

dietrich wrote:Realistically, it'd take about 10 years for a Constitutional Amendment to be enacted.

If done legally thats a true statement, but I'd posit it'd never happen. Neither party is that stupid.

Hooray! Fearmongering.

Its whats for breakfast.

Again should not be an issue. New poll numbers are out and Obama's still trailing behind Jimmy Carter (Jimmy Carter!?!) and his negatives are higher than the Great Satan and creator of all Evil EVAH George Bush.

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no no no.... his pole numbers CANT be going DOWN.... he is Aun O Bama, he has come to unit us... FOR THE GREATER GOOD!!

I'd say the tampering with the Constitution happened when term limits got set at all. Never there in the beginning, and FDR worked out great for us in the historical view.

I think that the American people should be able to elect someone as many times as they damned well please...let a better candidate than whoever keeps winning show up and unseat them, if they can. If they can't, then the people have spoken.

Notice, however, that the coward Congress won't pass term limits for the Legislative Branch - and they're the real source of all our problems, not the President. The Pres has the bully pulpit and can try to drive policy, but he can't pass laws, and even though he can veto, the Congress can always overrule him...but he can never overrule them back.

Power rests with the Legislature. Time to look into getting them out of those seats after a few terms, let some fresh blood that represents the current generation in. What kind of system of government is ruled mostly by the old?

Cairnius wrote:I'd say the tampering with the Constitution happened when term limits got set at all. Never there in the beginning, and FDR worked out great for us in the historical view.

No he sucked for us in a historical view actually.

I think that the American people should be able to elect someone as many times as they damned well please...let a better candidate than whoever keeps winning show up and unseat them, if they can. If they can't, then the people have spoken.

The ability of incumbents to be re-elected is too much. I'd rather not have a soft dictatorship thank you.

I'll note here it was a Presidential tradition since Washington not to stand for election for more than two consecutive terms.

Frazzled wrote:
No he sucked for us in a historical view actually.

I don't really want to get into the specifics of the debate, but its far more complicated than "he worked out great", or "he sucked".

The ability of incumbents to be re-elected is too much. I'd rather not have a soft dictatorship thank you.

I'll note here it was a Presidential tradition since Washington not to stand for election for more than two consecutive terms.

There have only been 12 (counting FDR) two term Presidents in US history. The power of the incumbent is largely mitigated by the sheer visibility of the Presidential campaign.

If you look at the the last century however, barring assassination or events like resignation, most Presidents have had 2 terms.


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Ones I can think of that didn’t post FDR.

Truman, was VP for freeking ever
Kennedy-er we know how that went
Johnson-Vietnam debacle
Nixon-certain moral issues popped up
Ford-pardoned Nixon
Carter-Iran/stagflation (eerily familiar there)
Bush I-would have won except for Perotistas

I think what we need to do here, and this is just a theory mind you...

First we find the leading reps of each political party and add a bit of green party just to make things fun for everyone.

Once this mixture has been blended into a smooth texture we can add yeast and futuristic nanobots.

After the poli-dough has risen, let the mix be fried in a pan of bacon and eggs for extra extra flavor and spice.

In no longer than 3 days a new kind of politician will be born, we will call it THE RISEN ONE...

As soon as this beast has learned all of it's tasks, we can fit it with our entire nuclear arsenal and just chuck it via catapult into any country that beckons the beast of war and genuine politics.

Needless to say, this should solve our problem of overabundance of politicians as well as an effective way to save on military spending.

Term limits for Congress NOW!

This is not an Obama issue, considering at this point even CNN anchors would laugh at the thought of him getting re-elected (off camera anyway).

Frazzled wrote:

Wrexasaur wrote:I for one welcome our new socialist, er enlightened overlords

You welcome every new overlord. Remember the ant overlords.
But in all seriousness i doupt i will ever pass. But wait who came up with the idea for the bill. If it was obama then we should worried.
But i think this will have just as much luck as The bill to get rid of having to to be born american to be president or a bill to take away guns.
Beside even if the bill MADE it to either of congress then it would get major publicity.

LOL @ baseless fear mongering.

Fear mongering you say? BRING OUT THE TROLL!

Nuff said

Frazzled wrote:If you look at the the last century however, barring assassination or events like resignation, most Presidents have had 2 terms.

In the last 109 years, there have been 8 2 term Presidents (counting McKinley). Exactly half of the total number of two term Presidents in the 220 year history of the Presidency.

For full disclosure, my first number (12) was wrong. I forgot to count Washington, Lincoln, Nixon, and McKinley (who bring the total to 16). The calculation changes if you also include those Presidents who have served partial terms: Johnson, T. Roosevelt, Coolidge, and Truman. Even then the numbers work out to 9 before 1900, and 11 after 1900. Not an unusual deviation. You could even put McKinley in the pre-1900 category since that's when he spent most of his time in office; making the numbers even.

Oh lawd, I get banned for being a liberal for a few weeks and this section of the forum stays....

Well its exactly the same. Right up its own behind without a care or thought in the world.

Make it a little bigger, I have issues I'd like to work through by burying them too.......

Even the veiled murder threats by people on internet gaming forums are still around! Gosh you people are simply too much. I think I'll stay to the modeling forums for a while, I would call you all names and try and debate what is in essence pure, unaltered trolling, but fraz will just ban me while letting the guy that says he wants to kill socialists for amerika and the +1 post dude stick around.


Have fun debating in circles. Fraz you seem pretty smart when you aren't being insane. Try not to stay too close to lord hat. Theres just something wrong with that boy.