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Hey there guys, I'm new to Warhammer and the Space Marines... but I did go and spend all my savings on 'em (d'oh?)

Anyhoo, I've constructed this army... I'd like some criticisms, recommendations, hints on where I could shave off some points and perhaps some suggestions as to what I should use in the stores for friendlies... as obviously a 2605 point army isn't exactly a casual game...

But my most pressing concern from what I can see atm is; is it worth buying a Vanguard Assault Squad when I can just get a second Assault Squad far cheaper? (105 points versus god knows what)


Pasting it below:

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MECHANIZED INFANTRY:


<<Rhino>>
(It might prove to be more sensible to dispense with the Veteran Squad and instead purchase a second assault squad... and fill up the Rhino entirely with Tactical Squad 1, see 'Assault Squad 2')

VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD – 5 miniatures -125 points by default
-Sergeant with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Power Weapon and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Power Weapon and bolt pistol -15 points
total: 200 points

TACTICAL SQUAD 1 – COMBAT SQUAD ALPHA -90 points by default
-Sergeant with Power Fist and bolt pistol -25 points
-Space Marine with flamer
-Space Marine with bolter
-Space Marine with bolter
-Space Marine with bolter
total: 195 points

<<Razorback 1>>

COMMAND SQUAD – 6 miniatures -115 points by default
-Captain with Relic Blade and Combi-Melta -140 points
-Apothecary
-Veteran with Flamer and Chapter Standard
-Veteran with Meltagun
-Veteran with Lightning Claws
-Veteran with Lightning Claws
total: 255 points

<<Drop Pod 1>>

TACTICAL SQUAD 2 – 10 miniatures -90 points by default
Close Combat
-Sergeant with Power Fist and Bolt Pistol -25 points
-Space Marine with Flamer
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with multi-melta -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
total: 195 points

<<Landspeeder Storm 1>>
Deep Strike
(Complement will vary according to mission)
SCOUT SQUAD 1 – 5 miniatures (10 listed) -75 points by default
-Sergeant Telion with teleporter homer -65 points
SNIPER CONFIG:
-Scout with Sniper Rifle
-Scout with Sniper Rifle
-Scout with Sniper Rifle
-Scout with Sniper Rifle
OBJECTIVE CONFIG:
-Scout with Bolt Pistol and Combat Knife
-Scout with Bolt Pistol and Combat Knife
-Scout with Shotgun
-Scout with Shotgun
total: 140 points


INFANTRY:


TACTICAL SQUAD 1 – COMBAT SQUAD BRAVO:
-(see TACTICAL SQUAD 1 – COMBAT SQUAD ALPHA for point details)
Ranged Support
-Space Marine with Heavy Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points





TACTICAL SQUAD 3 – 10 miniatures -90 points by default
Ranged Support
-Space Marine Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol
-Space Marine with Heavy Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
total: 180 points

TACTICAL SQUAD 4 – 10 miniatures – points by default
Ranged Support
-Space Marine Sergeant with Chainsword and Plasma Pistol
-Space Marine with Missile Launcher
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
-Space Marine with Bolter -16 points
total: 180 points

DEVASTATOR SQUAD: -90 points by default
-Sergeant with Chainsword, Bolt Pistol and Signum
-Space Marine with Missile Launcher -15 points
-Space Marine with Missile Launcher -15 points
-Space Marine with Missile Launcher -15 points
-Space Marine with Missile Launcher -15 points
total: 150 points

TERMINATOR SQUAD: -200 points by default
Deep Strike
-Chaplain with Terminator Armour, Storm Bolter and Crozius Arcanum
-Sergeant with Storm Bolter and Power Sword
-Terminator with Storm Bolter and Power Fist
-Terminator with Storm Bolter and Power Fist
-Terminator with Storm Bolter and Power Fist
-Terminator with Storm Bolter and Power Fist
total: 200 points







ASSAULT SQUAD 1: -100 points by default
-Sergeant with Plasma Pistol and Power Fist
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Flamer
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
total: 150 points

ASSAULT SQUAD 2: -100 points by default (NOT YET PURCHASED)
-Sergeant with lightning claw and Combat Shield -5 points
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
-Space Marine with Chainsword and Bolt Pistol
total: 105 points

VEHICLES:

(Only added wargear included; default equipment not listed)

<<Bike Squad>> -90 points by default
-Space Marine Bike (to be converted into a sergeant)
-Space Marine Bike
-Space Marine Bike
-Attack Bike with Multi-Melta -50 points
total: 140 points

<<Rhino>> -35 points by default
-Hunter-Killer Missile -10 points
total: 45 points

<<Razorback 1>> -40 points by default
-Twin-Linked Lascannons -35 points
-Hunter-Killer Missile -10 points
total: 85 points

<<Landspeeder 1>> -50 points by default
-Typhoon Missile Launcher -40 points
total: 90 points

<<Landspeeder Storm>> -50 points by default
total: 50 points

<<Dreadnought>> - Brother Silas -105 points by default
total: 105 points

TOTAL ARMY POINTS:
2605

are your assault squads only 5 man sqauds, its kinda hard to tell. if so id merge them. my experience with assault squads shows me that there're only really good at beating stuff thats not above average at CC, but 5 man squads would have trouble beating even tac squads or CSM they just arent THAT good,

KommanderKurtikai wrote:are your assault squads only 5 man sqauds, its kinda hard to tell. if so id merge them. my experience with assault squads shows me that there're only really good at beating stuff thats not above average at CC, but 5 man squads would have trouble beating even tac squads or CSM they just arent THAT good,

Aye I have one squad that is 5 men; what's a cheap way for me to get my hands on another four marines?

One thing you can do is use the 'edit' feature and clean up the post as its too long to grasp in one shot. Also, I believe posting points costs violates GW's Intellectual property rights. Read Dakka's posting rules.


You could take this:

VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD – 5 miniatures -125 points by default
-Sergeant with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Lightning Claw and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Power Weapon and bolt pistol -15 points
-Veteran with Power Weapon and bolt pistol -15 points

and make it as simple as:
Vanguard - 3 w/ LCs, 2 w/ PWs.

Same for all the Tacticals and other units. You have been looking at how other folks post, yes?

Otherwise, regarding VG - go the full 10 guys, but go easy on PWs and LCs. Unless you're really good at assaulting 2 units, you'll end up totally killing whatever you assault, leaving your VG open to counter fire.

Aye I have one squad that is 5 men; what's a cheap way for me to get my hands on another four marines

eBay.