Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Does the unit inside the vehicle count as a weapon? So only if the vehicle doesn't move can all the units shoot (open toped)? Or if it goes 6 inches or less 1 of the guys inside can shoot?

Playing orks and if all my shootas / lootas could shoot even after the truk / battle wagon moved that would be great



Edit: Ok found another thread that answered part of my question...the shootas part. What about lootas being heavy. Does it count as moving if they are in a vehicle?

Other post

The unit inside can shoot as if it had moved that turn (meaning only assault weapons or rapid fire weapons at 12" range) as long as the open toped vehicle moved at combat speed (6" or less).

So yes, all your shootas can fire, however, your lootas, which have Heavy weapons, can not.

something else to remember is that red paint allows an extra inch without any penalties. IE you could slam your wagon 7 inches forward and unload with your shootaz.

Open topped full of burnas is happiness

rednekgunner wrote:something else to remember is that red paint allows an extra inch without any penalties.

Exactly. But remember that RPJ is "added to your move" - moving 1'' must still mean you moved for the purpose of determining what speed band you're in. So no Lootaz shooting from a wagon that crawled that one inch.

What I've seen done is absolutely sick with orks and the damn Trukks... lol... Move 13", disembark 2", shoot, assault 6"... Absolutely crazy... most of my army got crushed the first turn. but then again, its my faultfor letting them get so close... lol

I thought that you couldn't disembark the Orks if a trukk moved fast that turn?

Trukks are opentopped, so you can assault after moving 12'

Thanks, Durandal.

asugradinwa wrote:The unit inside can shoot as if it had moved that turn (meaning only assault weapons or rapid fire weapons at 12" range) as long as the open toped vehicle moved at combat speed (6" or less).

So yes, all your shootas can fire, however, your lootas, which have Heavy weapons, can not.

I actually just read this post even though it was posted before my last post here, but I guess I am misunderstanding you Asugradinwa, are you saying that assault weapons can only shoot at the 12" range if they have moved? If so, you are wrong on this as on page 28 states "assault weapons shoot the numbers of times indicated whether you moved or not and regardless of range." Just curious as it if I missed something or not.

s2ua7 wrote:

asugradinwa wrote:The unit inside can shoot as if it had moved that turn (meaning only assault weapons or rapid fire weapons at 12" range) as long as the open toped vehicle moved at combat speed (6" or less).

So yes, all your shootas can fire, however, your lootas, which have Heavy weapons, can not.

I actually just read this post even though it was posted before my last post here, but I guess I am misunderstanding you Asugradinwa, are you saying that assault weapons can only shoot at the 12" range if they have moved? If so, you are wrong on this as on page 28 states "assault weapons shoot the numbers of times indicated whether you moved or not and regardless of range." Just curious as it if I missed something or not.

(meaning only "assault weapons" or "rapid fire weapons at 12" range")
I think this is how it was meant.

You cannot disembark if the trukk moved Flat Out.
If it moved 1-12"(13" RPJ), you can disembark, shoot then assault.
If it moved 6"(7" RPJ) you can shoot all non-heavy weapons from inside, measuring from any point on the hull. This unit can fire at a different target than the trukk.

Black Spike's listing is correct gj

Yes, if you get within 18" of a trukk full of boyz then expect to get assualted. Golden rule of thumb for most armies... if you playing orks pick them off at range.