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I want to run a fairly thematic army with both, but I can't figure out an explanation to why they would be working together. I was thinking the sorcerers are mind controlling the zerks, but khorne bestows immunity to stuff like that. Any suggestions? I am planning on running a khorne lord and a sorcerer with a mark of tzentch if that helps.

Well, Khorne's dislike of Tzeentch isn't like the raw hatred that he feels for Slaanesh and his decadence, but he scorns it as cowardly and dishonourable. Therefore, Sorcerers would be hired to conduct rituals and the like because Berzerkers have no idea how to deal with the Warp.

so in an army that is composed of both who would you say would be in charge? The khorne lord or the sorcerer? And on a side note are their any other god hatreds besides khorne vs slannesh?

Khorne Lord would be in charge. They don't like getting walked all over.

As for the god emnities,

Khorne <> Slaanesh
Nurgle <>Tzeentch

Cheese Elemental wrote:Khorne Lord would be in charge. They don't like getting walked all over.

The Khorne Lord would think he was in charge. The Sorceror would probably think he was truly in control. Or the Lord could just be tagging along for skulls and/or blood while the sorceror goes about his cowardly ways. Or the sorceror could be following the Lord who hapens to ensure that noone with a head and/or blood is around to interfere.

Abaddon would be in charge, calling the shots from the eye of terror. The Khorne Lord and the Tzeen Sorcerer would be barely tolerating each other, and planning how to kill each other after the objective had been achieved.

Critical point - after the objective had been completed.

RustyKnight would probably have it more correct.
How I see it is that the Khorne Lord only tolerates having the sorcerers around for whatever reason (survival, maybe, or the need for daemon summoning rituals), and thus the Khorne Lord would think he is in charge cause he hates being bossed around. The Tzeentch Sorceror, knowing this, would probably act as an 'adviser' to the Khorne Lord, but would really be the behind-the-scenes manipulator/mastermind.

Kinda like how Sindri Myr was in DoW1

Yes, Sindri Myr was a very good example of a Tzeentchian Sorcerer. However, Lord Bale (the Chaos Lord he accompanied) was not a servant of Khorne. He used a Manreaper, which is a Nurgle weapon, but he wasn't all decayed or anything, so I'd assume that he was Undivided.

The Chaos Lord in DoW: Winter Assault hired Sorcerers to advise him of new developments and conduct Chaos rituals, like summoning Daemons and sacrificing Guardsmen to fill the Blood Pits of Khorne. At first I thought this was an oversight because the Chaos Marines in WA are World Eaters, but it explicitly states that he hired the Sorcerer's assistance despite his distrust of them.

lord bale was alpha legion and thus undivided. So are all sorcerers cowardly or what?

Bale was Alpha Legion.


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thekidwiththecokeprob wrote:lord bale was alpha legion and thus undivided. So are all sorcerers cowardly or what?

Ah, but Firaeveus Carron was a Khornate Lord and a member of the Alpha Legion.

And not all Sorcerers are cowardly. Most of them are just as thirsty for glory as Chaos Lords, but they prefer less direct methods is all.

Cheese Elemental wrote:

thekidwiththecokeprob wrote:lord bale was alpha legion and thus undivided. So are all sorcerers cowardly or what?

Ah, but Firaeveus Carron was a Khornate Lord and a member of the Alpha Legion.

And not all Sorcerers are cowardly. Most of them are just as thirsty for glory as Chaos Lords, but they prefer less direct methods is all.

Which in turn is seen as cowardly and weak, in the eyes of Khorne. It's all relative.

Not to Carron. He was fine with Sorcerers, but not METAL BOXES.

the sorcerers are not cowards but manipulators, theres a big difference.

its also not far from feasible that the berzerkers are a roaming warband attaching themselves to whoever is going to raise their body count.

thekidwiththecokeprob wrote:so in an army that is composed of both who would you say would be in charge? The khorne lord or the sorcerer? And on a side note are their any other god hatreds besides khorne vs slannesh?

And even though warbands fight each other from time to time they usually band together to bring the lapdogs of the Emperor to heel.
And about speaking of hatred,Nurgle and Tzeentch are mortal enemies...er...immortal enemies you know what I mean!!!!