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in a nurle deamon army (1750pts) what percentage of nurgle deamons should i include hmm in a duel tz nrg list?

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Are you speaking english? This is an english speaking forum, maybe you could use an online translator like: http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

No habla espanol. Chasque el acoplamiento por favor.

sorry I was just rushing what i was righting (force of habit with work) what i am asking is that in a chaos deamons army consisting of both nurgle and tzeentch at 1750pts at what percentage (ie 55% nurgle 45% tzeentch) should i include epidemus or something down the lines of 80% nurgle for example

and by the way im Kiwi Born and bred (so was laz work english)

Thank you, that is much more clear.

Epidemius is, in my opinion, an all or nothing character. I would go 100% nurgle, with the exception of soul grinders, if you plan on taking him. He is expensive, not very good in CC for his points, and his bonuses only come from nurgle daemons and are only given to nurgle daemons. If you plan on running a force of multiple gods, drop him for a great unclean one, or fateweaver.

BTW, how do you justify a nurgle/tzeentch force? They're opposing gods.

what?
nurgle and tzeentch list? :
and what are you even asking?
do you want to know if you should take epidemus or how many nurglites you should take?
in answer to those, yes and 100%.

Also, this belongs in tactics. Alerting the modquisition.

thats alright 100%nurgle then (and a grinder)


and havnt you heard of flamers of nurgle (or gut belchers as i like to call them)

Yeah, you're going to have a hard time passing that as a fluffy army.

not if they look nurglish, then there like grinders just that they (like the grinders ) dont add to the taly

Not sure if this should be a tactics question or an army list question.

I'll put it in tactics as you haven't included a full lsit for comment.

Mod off.

The difference are grinders are a much needed vehicle that is powerful no matter where you put it and fits the fluff, and the flamers do not fit your fluff (even if you paint them green, dont kid yourself) and are not worth their points IMO.

thanks for the input, hopefully your not trying to come across as harsh

If your using epi then there are a few rules to comp, Princes over grinders and you want to get a GUO if possible to help out then just mass plaguies and nurglings. And as to Belchers of nurgle....just no use DP's with breath of chaos >.>

I've had great results using %100 Nurgle with Epidemus, 2 princes and a TON of plaguebearers. Tie up the opposition with nurglings or plaguebearers then hit them with winged princes. Wracks up the tally pretty quickly, which makes every model in your all nurgle army gross in CC.

An Epidemus Army should start out with this base:

3 MoN Winged Princes armed with a ranged attack to start killing on the first turn they arrive.
KuGath
Epidemus
One Squad of 10+ Plague Bearers for Epi.

From there you just add more Plague Bearers and some nurglings if like.

After that you can add some beasts of nurgle but they aren't that great.

Yeah, you're going to have a hard time passing that as a fluffy army.

Yeah he would have a hard time -- 2 years before there was even a daemon army. Please read your current codexes before passing judgement on what is fluffy or not.

IMO -- Drop epi, take 2 Guo's and keep the flamers. And don't let the haters get ya down.

If they didn't want anyone to take Nurgle and Tzeentch together they would have had a rule. LET THE OLD FLUFF DIE.

I agree with the notion of all Nurgle with a few obligatory Soul Grinders. Search in the army list section cuz there are a few good lists posted. The majority that I've seen do well competitively run 1 Nurgle DP at most, because the grinders are that important.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:If they didn't want anyone to take Nurgle and Tzeentch together they would have had a rule. LET THE OLD FLUFF DIE.

Daemonic Rivalry, page 27, Codex: Chaos Daemons.

It doesn't prevent you from taking an undivided force, but it does demonstrate that the rivalry between the gods is not "old fluff"

Hell, read the fluff sections of the book. "The great game" is just the name that has been given to the chaos god's eternal war with each other.

And several of the sample armies are composed of ALL of the gods. The WD battle report introducing the Daemon Codexes was mixed entirely. There is fluff to justify any daemon list imaginable.

Then again the codex also states reasons and gives examples in more then one place how any of the 4 could be working together. Also note the rivalry rule applies to not just opposing gods but any differeing god. So no it does not quite demonstrate what you were implying above.

Look, I do dig it when people make armies based on the rich background provided from past sources. But I draw the line from knocking someone for following the new background in contradiction to the old. Let others play and model how they want imo.

yea especially the wording for the flamers of spraying colour booze slime metal and every thing else under (and above) the sun

Canonness Rory wrote:Yeah, you're going to have a hard time passing that as a fluffy army.

Not everyone cares about fluff. And Codex: Chaos Daemons would disagree with you that a nurgle and tzeentch list is unfluffy in the first place. A rivalry doesn't mean they don't work together. It's chaos after all. Daemons won't let a herald of an opposing god join their unit but daemons will work together to kill any non daemons. The whole fluff behind the chaos daemon codex is that a daemonic incursion is going on and whatever can get out of the warp comes pouring out.