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Who-hoa! I'm back yet again with another TFG move my buddy had pulled on me.

Ok, So the story goes as follows. The terrain is a 2-3 inch tall piece of foam that's vertical. A wall if you will, My friend and i agreed that if you wanted to cross it you would just have to do a Difficult Terrain check. The idea being that if a space marine couldn't grab a wall and pull him self over... WTF. So he parks his sisters of battle Rino next to it so the side exit hatch facing it is up against it. (ZERO Inches from the terrain ) I shot his tank and BOOM! it's wrecked. He takes the 10 man (well woman being there Space nuns...) and puts them on the other side of the wall and contests the objective on the other side of it. I called him on it and a rather large debate (politically correct term) followed.

My line of reasoning: It's like pulling your car up next to a wall. Yes if you got out on the other side you could eventually hop over the wall but there's no way in hell you'd be able to open the car door to step out onto the OTHER side of the wall...
His line of reasoning: It's within 2 inches and it's not "Impassable terrain"

You make da Call!


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And before you say it, Yes i only really cared because he contested the Objective. lol.

It's a TFG move, but if you classed it as Difficult and not Impassible, there is nothing wrong with what he did.

Gwar! is right. On a semi-related side note, does deploying (voluntarily in the movement phase) trigger a Difficult Terrain test if they don't intend to move further? I cant see it mentioned in the BGB, but technically they do "enter difficult terrain"

unistoo wrote:Gwar! is right. On a semi-related side note, does deploying (voluntarily in the movement phase) trigger a Difficult Terrain test if they don't intend to move further? I cant see it mentioned in the BGB, but technically they do "enter difficult terrain"

Yes they enter difficult terrain, however they do not have to test for how far they can move unless they make further movement. Like consolidation or running, disembarking is not affected by Difficult terrain. Dangerous Terrain must be tested for as normal.

Gwar! wrote:

unistoo wrote:Gwar! is right. On a semi-related side note, does deploying (voluntarily in the movement phase) trigger a Difficult Terrain test if they don't intend to move further? I cant see it mentioned in the BGB, but technically they do "enter difficult terrain"

Yes they enter difficult terrain, however they do not have to test for how far they can move unless they make further movement. Like consolidation or running, disembarking is not affected by Difficult terrain. Dangerous Terrain must be tested for as normal.

Thanks for clearing that up

yep, since its difficult they just get out, if it was impassable, or you had surrounded it with other models making it impassable then you could have busted out the smores and watched em go up like match sticks.

Yeah there's no reason he can't do it, it's the same as pulling up next to woods and disembarking into them, I don't think it's even a TFG move, I can't see how this is unfair if the terrain piece was considered difficult terrain.

It's legal and I agree with Drunkspleen - I don't see how it's TFG thing for him to follow the rules.

If you wanted it to be impassable you should have declared that in the first place. Pulling up next to a wall and disembarking on the other side of it to avoid DT tests is a smart thing to do.

budro wrote: I don't see how it's TFG thing for him to follow the rules.

That line causes no end of problems.

LOL

kirsanth wrote:

budro wrote: I don't see how it's TFG thing for him to follow the rules.

That line causes no end of problems.

LOL

Someone called? Oh, nevermind, false alarm.

Legal and appropriate. If you didn't think that wall should be hurdled, it should have been defined as Impassible at the start of the game.

Just adding to it being legal and acceptable, cant say its a TFG move at all.

agreed. Well played on your opponents part

The OP could not have made a more biased poll if he tried. Nice options and objective analysis.