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This came up yesterday, so I've got 6 censer bearers ranked up against an enemy unit, with the poison gas, do they just take 1 toughness test for each censer bearer or is it every one in base contact takes it 3 times (for those touching it) for a total of 18 toughness tests? I'm confuzzled because the army book entry isn't very clear

18 Toughness tests seems a bit overkill: That's causing people potentially two or three ranks back to keel over.

I do not recall any information in the FAQ, so I'm no final answer. However, I'd say it is 18 toughness checks... but at 3 tests a model, not 18 throughout the unit.

I'd say 6 Toughness tests, 1 per bearer.

It says "All models in base contact with one or more models armed with a censer must take a toughness test"

I'm guessing then that it doesn't matter how many are in base contact, as it does say one or more models may be armed with a censer, but it still only confers a toughness test, meaning 1.

There are multiple readings of the army book based on when it was printed. Example: there are 3 current prints of the most recent skaven book. One with a brown border, one without, and a 2nd version of the brown border. Some of the wargear items are worded differently, such as the warlock wargear also.

I'm pretty certain, not 100%, as the reason I do not play the unit is my book has "a model in base contact with a censer bearer takes a toughness test." So to me the model would take 1 toughness test, not 2 if it was in base with 2 models. IE a front rank of 5 models, takes 5 toughness tests. Hope that helps. Also there's nothing in the FAQ about it, as i've checked a couple times.

If you are in contact with 1 or more Bearer models, take a toughness test.
1 test regardless of how many Bearers you are in contact with.

That straight forward, assuming you have the latest print

Cryonicleech wrote:I'd say 6 Toughness tests, 1 per bearer.

And you would be wrong, based on the rule you're quoting below.

Cryonicleech wrote:It says "All models in base contact with one or more models armed with a censer must take a toughness test"

Very simple and clear. Each affected model has to take a Toughness test, no matter how many Censer Bearers are in contact. So if 6 Censer Bearers are in contact with 4 models, the 4 models take 4 Toughness tests. If, OTOH, 6 Censer Bearers are in contact with 8 enemy models, then those 8 enemy models have to take 8 Toughness tests.

I was referring to the tests the Censers themselves have to take...

the censors have to take 6 total. one each, just like the enemy

Its, unfortunately, why I do not think Censer Bearers should be in a large unit. They are excellent vs cavalry in general. When its usually 5-7 cav, vs 5-7 censer bearers. That's where they shine. If you didn't have to take plague monks i'd take them all the time. Their points are a little steep for my liking, but they are probably about right with their weapons being magical, and having a chance for double wounds.