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Does anyone else think that tank shocking is a good idea in objective games? I mean it moves a scoring unit away from the score point and moves a contesting unit in. Plus if the tank is carrying a unit they can score. I play Eldar and turbo boosting a tank into a scoring unit has had some good results. Today I had a scoring unit fail and run off the board while another unit simply moved out of the way. I was wondering if anyone else thinks this is a good early to midgame tactic and as a last ditch effort?

As a last-ditch effort it works very well, but that's it. The problem with tank shocking is death or glory attacks. Your land raider is too expensive to risk it against a melta-wielding guardsman, except in the last turn, and your rhino is too fragile to expect it to succeed against that same guardsman, but in the last turn, why not?

It's a great tactic all the time.

Unless they have powerfists or melta weapons.

I use Rhinos that don't have their payload to push the Enemy around like that. Used it on Tyrinids a Month ago in order to push them off of a objective point in order to squeeze out a win. Just a few weeks ago I used an empty Rhino to stop some Chaos Marines from pushing me off of an Objective point. Really, when the Rhino is empty I turn them into Bulldozers. They aren't high Priority Targets, but they do come in handy when you need em.

So, yes. I use Tankshock a lot.

Well, it was a eldar vs eldar game today and I shocked a group of scoring guardians off 2nd turn. The ws got wrecked and the banshees were assaulted by his banshees and died (bad rolls). Then they were killed by ws. Fun game though. But I ts the guardians off and moved another squad into firing range of rangers. Personally I think tankshocking is an underestimated tactic. As for death and glory, not many units have the equipment to do it.

The Bloody Handed God wrote:Well, it was a eldar vs eldar game today and I shocked a group of scoring guardians off 2nd turn. The ws got wrecked and the banshees were assaulted by his banshees and died (bad rolls). Then they were killed by ws. Fun game though. But I ts the guardians off and moved another squad into firing range of rangers. Personally I think tankshocking is an underestimated tactic. As for death and glory, not many units have the equipment to do it.

That is absolutely correct...and even then you have only a 50% chance of halting the vehicle IF the vehicle is penetrated...

Don't forget that they may only attempt death or glory if they are directly in the tanks path. So if you tank shock the edge of the unit and the melta/powerfist is not in the path of the tank, they cannot attempt a DoG.

Also remember that tank shocks can be used to bunch units up for templates.

Use it to sweep low Ld enemies off the board. Use either two or three empty transports, each taking a turn trying to make them fall back. When they start falling back, the other transports can go back to doing whatever and one should stay within 6" of the enemy you just made fall back.

When all the weapons got destroyed on my Vindicator that's all it could do. A fex ate it, but it still tried. Another time, it ran over a bunch of Eldar.

The Bloody Handed God wrote:Personally I think tankshocking is an underestimated tactic.

Seconded! I'm always wondering why tankshock is so seldomly mentioned in the 40K tactics section of Dakka.

Also people forget a lot of the times that CC attacks are resolved on the FRONT armor so power fists are not that dangerous

I tank shock all the time with empty transports

In 5th CC is resolved on the back armour. Powerfists usually mean 2 to glance 3 to penetrate.

I tank shock constantly with my Mech Eldar. It is highly effective at clearing objectives in the late game and for moving shooty units out of position to shoot at the rest of your army. Also, it is a great way to buch up enemy units for triple flamer template doom. All in al, TS is a very valubale tool in any Mech Eldar list.

Also, it is very, very tough to have an effective DoG vs. a WS or any Eldar tank with a Holofield.


@not-u: You are mistaken. DoG rules state that all DoG attacks are reolved against front armor.

lol yeah tired, I thought it was normal CC for a second for some reason.
I agree they really aren't that frightening in DoG, in normal CC they are. So I guess it could be an alright tactic for dealing with any fists that get too close.

I think tank shocks are great for objective grabbing... especially when you have a Battlewagon full of Nobz with a Deff Rolla on it.

D6 S10 hits, LD test, then you can try that DoG and oh... another D6 S10 hits. If you get through front armor 14 and can stop me I'm going to pile out and hit you with the Nobz. If not... well I'm going to pile out and hit you with the Nobz unless its turn 6.

Even against a 'Fist or 'Claw, the chances that they will loose that expensive piece of kit and model is very high.

n0t_u wrote:In 5th CC is resolved on the back armour. Powerfists usually mean 2 to glance 3 to penetrate.

Tank Shock and Death or Glory attacks are not CC. They strike Front Armor. Page 69 of the rulebook.

Battlewagons are the best tank for Tank Shocking/Ramming. All those S10 attacks are going to pulverise anything. You haven't lived until you've seen Abbadon squashed flat.

n0t_u wrote:In 5th CC is resolved on the back armour. Powerfists usually mean 2 to glance 3 to penetrate.

Proves my point about DoG being misunderstood :p

Kirasu wrote:

n0t_u wrote:In 5th CC is resolved on the back armour. Powerfists usually mean 2 to glance 3 to penetrate.

Proves my point about DoG being misunderstood :p

Read my post after that

I did read it.. but thats the kind of kneejerk response in games that I see.. and gets power fists killed heh

With Eldar holo fields go a long way for falcons. I've also started taking vectored engines or on my falcon.

I run 5 dires + eldrad (or a standard farseer) in it. With fortune it's super resilient. Had tons of success with the unit thus far.

Another good thing to note is against things like canifex. They usually don;t have a chance to kill you and if they don't they become windshield slim. IF they choose to move off they are pushed off the objective.

Yay tank shocking just got better.

Didnt know that little fact about the guy going for DoG had to be in the way of the vehicle.

Now i really need to buy Rhinos. Gone are the days of my pure footslogger army.....