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Do we know if they're gonna share more details about Ninja All Stars? They announced it but that's the extent of what I know.



Edit: Apologies in advance for getting a bit OT.

Suppose it's old hat now, but my package has also arrived. It looks like (irritatingly) there aren't enough base inserts for every model as was promised, but things otherwise seem to be in order.

They are *tiny* though! Really, really small. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but if they're asking £35 for the PVC Candy Rush, I thought it would have more...presence. The female character proportions have them being ~2mm at the waist in some cases.

And while the restic is better than some I've come across, important details like faces are extremely shallow (something I'd attribute to the CG modelling not factoring in the end material), and there is quite major 'slippage' between some mould halves. The Cosplay Iron Chef has the bottom half of his cigar about 0.5 mm displaced from the top, for example. Most of the models are low-detail enough that cleaning is relatively straightforward though.

I really, really think they've screwed up the retail pricing for this line - single characters being £10 is comparable to much larger £12-15 Studio Mcvey resins, and the detail just isn't there. I think it was a perfectly fine deal for the Kickstarter though, 2 year wait aside.

Got a chance to skim through my box and I have to admit to being pleasantly surprised.

Ok I have a couple of the facless ones in among my order but stuff like the big black diamond mecha and in fact most of the black diamond stuff is nice.

Apparently I've had my pledge delivered by DPD although it's nowhere to be seen, not with friends, neighbours or the depot. I'm happy to see movement even if its wrong,at least other folks are getting stuff which is a good sign. Let's hope SPM are more helpful than CMoN.

If you've moved between the end of the KS and now check your address on the CMON pledge manager to make sure it's right

problems there might explain where your box has gone

I got a tracking number today. My pledge arrived on Monday

I think the biggest difference are in models 'clearly' designed for Restic, and others that were... not.

My Princess Mayla for example. Her robot is awesome. It looks great, was easy to clean, etc. But her body and face were not. It was clearly designed for very subtle detail only metal and resin can get you.

Meanwhile, Sophia Drake, a model that never was released in any form prior to Restic, looks great and is as clean or cleaner than any GW plastic kit I've seen.

 Killionaire wrote:


Meanwhile, Sophia Drake, a model that never was released in any form prior to Restic, looks great and is as clean or cleaner than any GW plastic kit I've seen.

This is good news - and you may have just 'solved' the Restic PVC problem here, and in doing so, made it easier for us to determine which figures to avoid?

And maybe there's hope for the future of the line, and maybe of this material?

 Alpharius wrote:

 Killionaire wrote:


Meanwhile, Sophia Drake, a model that never was released in any form prior to Restic, looks great and is as clean or cleaner than any GW plastic kit I've seen.

This is good news - and you may have just 'solved' the Restic PVC problem here, and in doing so, made it easier for us to determine which figures to avoid?

And maybe there's hope for the future of the line, and maybe of this material?

This appears to be yet another variation of restic different to that I have seen in sed wars, wamahordes stuff or any of mantics mixes.

The few mold lines I have encountered scraped off easily, you can even file it if your carefull but best results were obtained with a sheet of high grit sandpaper.

I have to agree It would appear that any deficiency with the models is down to the sculpting process not the material.

For example I just checked out agent 7 who suffers from an overall appearance of soft detail, next box I opened was the Royal Wrecker which is a beautiful little model with nice detail on both the mech and pilot.

I still have boxes of stuff to sort through as I went in for 4 armies but I am seriously considering keeping it all now, where I had pretty much written this ks off to experience and was ready to sell the lot.

Also after reading the rules it actually sounds pretty fun.

I decided to go for it and have just ordered the Shattered Sword Paladins Battle Box from Wayland games, the game looks so different from anything else currently on the market it will make a pleasant change.

I'll need to pick up a second starter at some point, not sure which yet but the Doctrine Battle Box looks like it has an interesting selection of models.

 GiraffeX wrote:
I decided to go for it and have just ordered the Shattered Sword Paladins Battle Box from Wayland games, the game looks so different from anything else currently on the market it will make a pleasant change.

I think you will get what you are looking for from the game. "different from anything else" is certainly a good way to describe it. Take your time in the first few games because it shares so few common threads with other minis games you may get a little confused at times.

The shattered sword starter has some excellent models but they can take some time to assemble. Each of the five swordsworn is a unique sculpt without any interchangeable parts and four to seven parts each. The paragons also have two unique poses and several parts. Francis Mallory was one of the metal models that made a good transition to plastic but he blends in with the swordsworn a bit when unpainted.

Regarding the restic, it is certainly a bit better than Mantic's version. There is also a lot less warpage, so far I have only had to heat-bend one model. I was most impressed with Princess Malya's mech, where there are 3-4 parts between the foot and the hand, but they end up being perfectly aligned with the base with no bending needed.



I daresay the models are mostly just easier to clean up because they have less detail, though.

Any ideas on how to glue Mr. Tomn to his base? I'm tempted to just Greenstuff a rock to stick his toe in. There's just so little surface area to keep him attached to the base.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Any ideas on how to glue Mr. Tomn to his base? I'm tempted to just Greenstuff a rock to stick his toe in. There's just so little surface area to keep him attached to the base.

You should try the Shattered Sword starter. I had to make at least three "rock" for various ballerina poses. Seems Soda Pop don't always take into account that you actually have to mount these things to bases.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Any ideas on how to glue Mr. Tomn to his base? I'm tempted to just Greenstuff a rock to stick his toe in. There's just so little surface area to keep him attached to the base.

He really should have a peg! But I just put him on tiptoes as intended and so far my super glue is holding. If he breaks off, I'll pin him.



Next question: Darkspace Candy & Cola come with 2 bases, but rules wise they are obviously 1 model. Put both on the same base, or separate for display purposes and don't deploy Cola on the table at all?

Mr.Church13 wrote:
Seems Soda Pop don't always take into account that you actually have to mount these things to bases.

Very odd for 'game pieces', isn't it?

I pinned my Tomn. Esmee was the toughest to pin thus far.

Got my replacement Hell's Belles torsos today - but I only got two of them.

Is that enough to fix what was missing?

It has been a while since I looked, but I thought the issue involved more than just 2 missing torsos?

I'm fairly certain that there was 1 missing torso per box of Belles. So however many packs you're supposed to have, that's how many torsos you should receive.

SPM are also replacing the miscast Prefect so you should be getting one of those if that was part of your pledge.

Thanks for the answer!

Also, no Doctrine for me - that was the one faction I passed on completely!

Helle's Bells were only missing 1 torso per box. So, if you kickstarted and had Cersei, that means you got 2 boxes. Thus, two torsos. A fairly easy thing to miss.

Now that I've put together and painted most of my Cersei, and started on BDs, here's the 'model quality' ratings I figure:

Cersei
Princess Mayla: Meh to OK. Her Robot is fine, but her head has lost all detail. Mr. Tomn has an issue where he's two peices that need greenstuff. Nasty mold line over Mayla's goggles needed a scrape.
Suicide Queen: Good. She has a bit of clean-up, but I didn't get any 'critical' mold lines.
Pacer: Good. Very little clean-up, logical design of model.
Rin Farrah: Good-to-OK. She's pretty great across the board except for the gun. Her model's design keeps a ton of detail. The gun barrel is even worse than in metal though. I ran a brass tube underneath to make it double barreled and to keep it straight.
Helles Belles: Bad. The torsos and heads are good, but they don't quite slot in right to both the bike grips and the foot-rests. There's some annoying mold lines in the rider's hair, which is a pain to clean but can be done. The bikes themselves have a ton of nasty mold lines that are a bitch to clean. I gave up and just relied on hugely bright annoyance colors to conceal that. The base mountings suck by default so I replaced them with brass rod.

Black Diamond:
One-Shot: Great. I owned the original Resin One-Shot (and will be using her), so I have good comparison. But they halved the number of parts, and made them look good! Even the rider has about as much detail as the metal version, so that's great. Fritz remains the coolest, if tiniest cipher.
Magnus: Great. Very little flash, and his model has a good design that makes sure none of those fiddly bits will ever fall off. Static looks good and has minimal clean up. Even Magnus's staff is solid.
M8 Auto-Tank: Meh. Requires heavy clean up and has some issues with how it's surface looks uneven. The treads are the worst, but the model is fine if you give it a cartoony paint job, as that makes the soft edges part of the look.
Diamond Corps: TERRIBLE. They have horrific mold lines across the sides of their bodies, which goes up and down between armor plates. My batch also had probably some poorer batch of the PVC material that had some warping, making clean up harder. Arms fitting into sockets was slightly annoying but not terrible. The heads don't have a socket connection, but rather a really dumb little nub-and-cavity setup that is nasty. I'll see how they come out painted, but they're not great.
Suspect 7: OK. Very managable mold lines, good design so you know how to put them together. They're clearly a later PVC batch, as their plastic seemed harder and easier to trim than the Diamond Corps. I had a flaw in one of my guys though: Her foot was completely missing from the ankle down. I sculpted a new foot really quickly from greenstuff, but that's why she's an OK instead of higher.
Sophia Drake: Amazing! She came out with a ton of detail and almost no clean-up. She fitted together just fine even dry-fit, and her head slots in perfectly into the suit. I'll post pics later, but she was very well cast. Clearly, a later batch.

Prismatics:
Candy and Cola: Great! She's like a fixed version of Mayla. All of her is just better. She fits on her robot, the robot fits together fine, there's minimal clean-up, her cypher is one piece... and she actually has a face that holds some detail.
Cordelia Clean: Meh! Her model makes so little sense in terms of how you put it together. I think I may have trimmed part of her arm a little, thinking it was flash. Her jetpack fits in, but it's super hard to understand where it goes. The gun looks nothing like the art, so I had to chop it up a bit with some other parts. But she's fairly easy to clean and has few mold lines at least.

Does anyone have the stat card for Sophia Drake? I'm missing mine

Sophia Drake was not part of the KS so unless you bought her separately from Soda Pop you won't have the model or card

(if you did buy her separately and the card is missing contact soda pop)

Did buy her seperately, card was missing. Contacted them but no reply yet. Was just wondering if anyone had a copy of her stats/card so I could use it in a game tonight

Ah that make more sense then

There was this shot DaveC posted ages ago so stats etc might have changed and it's missing the abilities



I've reached out to the facebook group to see if anybody there can do you a photo


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from Matthew Aslin on the facebook group,

together it should be enough to get her playable until Soda Pop get back to you (I think they're off at/traveling to another con)

Here's some test paints for my Black Diamond scheme. Still need to do a clean up and blend pass, but I think it works. I'm happy with Drake even with a cartoonier scheme though, since it fits the game's style. For the tank, it's WIP on a few details but it's not going to be able to sustain the love that your average infinity model can handle.

Nice tank. And those other models? Fuggedaboutit.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Ah that make more sense then

There was this shot DaveC posted ages ago so stats etc might have changed and it's missing the abilities



I've reached out to the facebook group to see if anybody there can do you a photo


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from Matthew Aslin on the facebook group,

together it should be enough to get her playable until Soda Pop get back to you (I think they're off at/traveling to another con)

Thanks for that

XCOM tank wins the thread! The only reason I bought Black Diamond at all was because the tank looks like it's from XCOM

I'm one of those people who just put together the bare minimum of miniatures and play them unpainted, so I'm getting the hang of the rules instead of fiddling with PVC. I have to say I quite like them and I'm going to go out on a limb here and just declare that RK has the best rules ever for handling units of multiple models. Really streamlined while still being meaningful. Seriously fantastic.

I got my missing Hell's Belles torsos in the other day, but no playmat. Getting irate, I started prowling the Relic Knights board and found this thread. The important bit(for me anyway) was this-

Deke wrote:Hey, hey my apologies for not being as active as I had been. Between getting the warehouse set up, the month long Gencon push, Super Dungeon Explore: Forgotten King and getting new employees up to speed we have been slammed. It's a confluence of awesome things that are happening all at once, and has us a bit breathless.

But you don't care about that, you care about progress! So here is the progress:

We have received all pledge items from CMoN except for Lithographs and the Mangas. However, CMoN has already shipped them to us and they should be arriving within a day or so.

We have hired an additional dedicated packer and an additional dedicated e-mail customer support person. I'm sure most of you who have contacted the rkbacker e-mail have already heard back from him as he is close to being caught up on that address.

We have sent out the missing Hell's Belles torsos and fixed Valerias to all US backers.

International backers:
-- If you only needed a fixed Valeria it has gone out. If you needed
-- Valeria and Hell's Belles torsos or just Hell's Belles torsos they are going out in a steady stream.
-- They are coming from the US so give them time to get to you.

All Hell's Belles and Valerias were sent out independant of any other missing items you may have. This was simply for logistics reasons. It does not mean we ignored or do not know about other missing items you may have contacted us about.

Now that we have all the product we need to start correcting mispacks and missing pledges, shipping for missing pledges, parts, and items began this week from SPM. We are shipping daily. I do not have a good sense of how long this will take yet. Every issue we receive is unique so we can't "assembly line" the process. We're also having to check against multiple e-mails often sent to multiple addresses and the backer records provided by CMoN. I know that's not your problem—but it does slow the process. We are working through as quickly as we can.

Our understanding is that most of the EU orders have been shipped. We were provided with a whole swath of tracking numbers for them. If you have not received a tracking number feel free to contact rkbacker@sodapopminiatures.com to see if we have received one for you. We are also checking to see if there are any orders that have not yet shipped, and will get their tracking information. Note that if you ordered a battlemat, it shipped separately from the rest of your pledge and will arrive in its own tube.

I will keep checking in weekly or relay info to Jestor and Hausdorf with new status updates so you all know the progress that is being made. We will make sure every last one of you have each and every item you pledged for, so we can all enjoy our games battling for the fate of the Last Galaxy!

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#Always Super

Apologies if this was posted before.

I had gotten a refund for my pledge way way back and was happy to do so. However, a day or two ago I got a small packet from Ninja Division with a couple female bodies (I assume these are the Hell's Belles mentioned above).

Anyone want/need them? They'll be yours for postage (I am in the US) and feel bad just throwing them away. PM me if they'll be of use to any of you. I'll wait about a week before I chuck them.

Jake

EDIT: These are no longer available.