Most frightening wepon.

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**ChaosRobH**

Of all the wepons in 40k wich is the worst for infantry and wich is the worst for tanks? I'm not talking about super heavys, just normal 40k rules. What are the nastyist wepons and from what armys are they from?

**Horst**

multimeltas against tanks (imperial forces)

and breath of chaos (chaos forces) against infantry

**ChaosRobH**

Thoese sound cool, id have to say tau battle suit for tanks and the realy bad@$$ bolter on the side of a crusader for infantry.

**Raxmei**

Horst wrote:and breath of chaos (chaos forces) against infantry

What's so scary about a S3 flamer? Sure they're dangerous in large numbers, but that's true of nearly everything including regular S4 flamers. (Yes, I know what breath of chaos really does.)

A bastion breacher Medusa is currently the deadliest possible gun against armor in the 40k rules. S10 + 2d6, Ap1. As for infantry, the Deathstrike missile is pretty deadly if you set aside its crippling limitations. S10 Ap1, D3+3" radius blast, ignores cover. Wounds almost everything on a 2+, inflicts instant death on anything up to T5, and ignores all armor save, cover saves, and feel no pain. And a massive blast radius. Going down a notch or two to more serious weapons, the Manticore and Collossus are quite deadly versus infantry. This is all IG.

**Witzkatz**

Aye, Imperial Guard seems to rock the battlefield with their rather crude, rather simple "100kg of TNT should do the job" explosive shells. However, Eldar on the other side with their D-cannon are somewhat scary, too, for their ability to pen armor on 1/3 no matter what AV it has. Land Raiders and Russes don't like stuff like that. However, due to short range I'm not sure it is one of the scariest here. It probably gets easily topped by the IG artillery pieces.

And, yeah, the Deathstrike missile is a bit off. Because it basically kills everything from everywhere and it's hard to stop it from firing. It's disadvantages are, of course, scatter and possible "small" blast with bad dice. Otherwise it can annihilate almost everything. But, seriously, it's rather an Apoc weapon, is it.

**wuestenfux**

Dreadaxe, but it does no longer exist in the CSM codex.
Today, a melta within half range of a vehicle.

**Emperors Faithful**

Melta is pretty obvious for slow/biggish vehichles. (skimmers can float around and luagh)

However, I do believe that the 'gift of chaos' or the ork turning them into a squig is truly terrifying against independant characters. Especially if they are human/eldar Toughness.

**oggers**

Ahem leman russ punisher.

**Emperors Faithful**

No question here about this one.

Dark Reapers.
If you play Spehs Mahrinz then you are screwed.

**Warboss Gutrip**

The ork weirdboy power, Zzap!, counts as firing a weapon and is 36" range, +2D6 pen, S10 AP2, hits automatically if the target is in range. Its gotta be the best anti-tank weapon. I like the battle cannon against infantry.

**HellsGuardian316**

My fave anti-infantry weapon? Tau Railgun Submunition shot. yum ... toasted Guardsman

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My fave anti-tank weapon? Tau Railgun Solid Shot. yay ... toasted tank

**Emmkay**

Leman Russ Punisher with Knight Commander Pask in it

Hits on 4s kills on 2s with 20 dice, in a word nasty.

My personal favourite, rolling a 6 on the Exorcist launcher

**Nobody_Holme**

...Can I vote for a tool-ed up Cannoness against tanks?

Sensible BS, with a melta (Okay, so 3" melta range, but hey, she'll be charging, and its a pistol, so its a CCW as well, when you use it with the right stuff), (discounting the pistol's CCW effect, but hey) an eviscerator, and a pile of wargear. From a fair distance away, she'll just walk up to the tank, and hit it in the head. Thats ignoring the celestian retinue with a multi-melta, melta, and a transport vehicle (no codex to hand, but multi-melta immolator, anyone?)

Also, LR punisher v ICs with no attached infantry.

Aaaand then theres IG artilleryspam. Reroll scatter on the first shot of my salvo, then drop a coversave denial onto your head, with another shot coming.

**Mekboy**

Medusa with bastion breachers against tanks.
Colossus against infantry.

**anticitizen013**

Fluff wise I think the Harlequins Kiss is pretty frightening, hehe.

Game terms... well I seem to have troubles with Ork nobs with power claws, so I'll say that

**Vindicator#9**

I agree with anticitizen nobs with power claws and a mob of 29 boyz around him. Or better yet a squad of meganobz all with power claws in a battlewagon.

**Witzkatz**

Agreed on the nob with the PK in the big boyz mob. , that can be scary. However, if you know your opponent relies on this for AT power - keep Telion around as an SM player or the Vindicare as WH/DH/IG. Especially the turbopenetrator round is great for this, insta-killing the nob and therefore making the whole mob rather useless for tankbusting. Not the most frightening for the reason that there are some simple counters for some armies and its general vulnerability to anything that fires templates.

If this thread would be about units, I'd say large amounts of Land Raiders. However, just the weapon...

...I think the Incinerator is quite a fearsome weapon. Good damage, denies some armor saves, denies cover saves, denies invulnerability saves...no need to roll for hit...I'm not sure about the AP, is it 4 or 5? If it is AP4, then this is the nightmare of any Eldar force, I guess.

**elegost**

i'de have to say...

the deathstrike missile for tanks....

and the deathstrike missile for infantry...

COMON!!! IMAGINE BEING HIT IN THE REAR WITH ONE OF THOSE!!!!

Elegost

**vodo40k**

Difficult disision.....
But ill go for a punisher with pask against most regular infantry (sounds good and I have a thing for gattaling weapons IRL its 50-100 rounds a second!)
For tanks melta weaponry at half range.

**Doombot001**

Anti-Tank: Railgun. S10 AP1. Are you kidding me? My opponents target my railguns right off the bat.

Anti-Infantry: Huh, probably Airburst Fragmentation Projector. Its the best thing I've seen for Tau so far.

**kirsanth**

A carnifex.

**cadian512**

(your own) plasma weapons

**statu**

Battle cannons, and generally russes.......(especially those that can shake off a ram)

**Doombot001**

cadian512 wrote:(your own) plasma weapons

**Nurglitch**

For infantry, anything that a Dark Eldar Haemonculi might be toting.

For tanks, it is clearly the Volcano Cannon.

**Sha1emade**

Uh...the math hammer on a punisher even with pask is a bit lack luster. Sure its a ton of shots but a standard russ tends to kill more of just about anything you shoot at. In practice the punisher is not as good as it sounds. I would say the deathstrike is the best single gun in the game. IF it goes off. It is also ONE of the least likely guns to ACTUALLY fire. I would have to go with the trusty melta on a point to point basis if we are talking about actually game play.

Just my 2 cents...