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**Eyclonus**

HQ
Captain Damiel
Jump Pack
Powerfist

Elites
Veteran Assault Marines
3 Thunderhammers
5 Combat shields

5 Death Company
Jump Packs

Troops
Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Tactical Squad
10 Tactical Marines
Missile Launcher
Flamer
Rhino
Dozerblade
Extra Armour

Fast Attack
Bike Squad
5 Bikers
2 Meltaguns

Bike Squad
5 bikers
2 Meltaguns

Heavy support
Devastator Squad
4 :Lascannons
Razorback
TL-Lascannons
Dozerblade
Extra Armour

I'm not sure whether I should keep the Dev squad or swap in a Pred/LR.
Also wondering if I should take an attack bike instead of a heavy support slot.
Criticism/advice etc.. welcome.

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No ideas?

I would really like some assistance, as I'm really unsure about how to run a BA list.

**Eyclonus**

No problems? Unbreakable and in no need of tweaking?

**Liquidice281**

Make some room for Dante...he is to good to miss, -1 ws/bs for enemies within 12" and perfered enemy. also maybe add corbulo to keep him alive. Or maybe had mephiston becaus ehe is so badass in closs combat...

**rednekgunner**

I like Baal Predators myself. I would say drop the VAS, and bump up the DC to a full 10.Also a jump pack chaplain would be great to help direct the DC. (otherwise they go after the closest enemy, and a smart oponet will have you chase an empty rhino or equivalent) If you do decide to go with a Baal Predator i would suggest 2. Also you need another tac squad in a rhino.

**Eyclonus**

Are dozer blades and extra armour good?

Also dropping the Dev squad, 355 points is too big a target.

**Iboshi2**

I'd say that Extra armour is overcosted. The BA codex was written in 4th ed. back when any result on the penetrating hit table (good times) caused stunned as well as other effects. Back then it was usually worth 15 pnts. Now it's usually not. Dozerblades are good, as long as you realise that assault marines shouldn't follow you into cover. I like the idea of BA rhinos being mobile cover for assault squads, so I'd just not drive in cover.

Dev squad is good to drop. The lascannons can be found on preds, which live longer. You should be able to fit 2 in the points hole left by the Devs.

Rather than running bikes with meltas, I'd run Veteran assault squads with meltas. Even though they suffer from lower T, they do much better when up close in melee.

A Chaplain is slightly lackluster for BA, as the special characters outshine the vanilla ones. Chaplain Lemartes is a leap better than your current HQ (extra wound, deathmask, +1a?) while costing the same. Really you should be looking at either Dante, or Mephiston based on your preference, (I'd choose Dante any game).

Hope that helps.

**Eyclonus**

The Bikes are kind of the point, I wrote this as a response to the Assault Marines Vs. Bikes thread.

Lemartes I was thinking of, maybe if I can squeeze it, Lemartes and Dante

**Liquidice281**

If you take Dante make sure you take a honor guard with the chapter banner (can re-roll moral or pin checks within 12" an dget +1 attack), so you could have a death company with dante and the honor guard near and get furios charge, feel no pain, preferred enemy, -1 ws/bs of enemy stats, and rending. Also Corbulo acts like a chaplain in terms of death company. I personally run with mephiston because of his Iniative, and his average of 6 attacks on the charge with a force weapon ( say hello dead special characters)!

**Eyclonus**

Wondering; Is Terminator Librarian good for a fast moving brick?

**Liquidice281**

meh, its not worth the points in my opinion. All you get is a termie with a force weapon and that can either fly or gain +d3 attacks. All it take is a lascannon to kill it. If you have an extra 100 points, i'd add some more veterans to your vet squad and give them some power weapons.

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I don't mean to try to hijack, but i wanted an opinion on a new list i wanna test out. I made it as blood angel-e as possible IMHO

*HQ*

Lord Dante-200
Mephiston- 225

Honor Guard w/ Jump packs and melta bomb
-Standard bearer upgraded to chapter banner
-180

*Elite*

2x Furioso Dreads- 200

1x 5 man vet ass. Squad w/ power weapons- 225

1x 5man death company w/ jump packs

*Troops*

2x 10man assault squad w/ power fists- 550

1x 5man assault squad w/ melta bomb- 145

* Heavy support*

2x Baal predators with heavy flamer or heavy bolter sponsoons.

Plan is to just bomb rush them with overcharged pred engines and just follow with dante and company. I'd let the death company go ape crazy and draw attention. I use mephiston to hunt down demon princes or any kind of independent character that could use lash or any other power. key to victory is keeping keep the honor guard, dante, the vets, and the assaults squads close. I may want to free some points up and give the dreads drop pods and give them DS and make them tank hunters.

**Eyclonus**

That seems quite Blood Angels.

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My revised list, still need to fill 225 points. Contemplating a second BaalPred, and scout sniper squad, OR Lemartes and more Death Company.
Also I included a Company Champion, but is he worth the extra 25?

HQ
Commander Dante
Honour Guard
Jump Packs
Blood Angels Chapter Banner
Power Fist X 2
Company Champion

4 Death Company
Jump Packs

Troops
Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Tactical Squad
10 Tactical Marines
Missile Launcher
Flamer
Rhino
Dozerblade

Fast Attack
Bike Squad
5 Bikers
2 Meltaguns

Bike Squad
5 bikers
2 Meltaguns

Heavy support
Baal Predator
Heavy Bolters

**rednekgunner**

I like this list better, but would suggest a few things:
-Not sure about the Honor Guard with Dante, because they are expensive. How about attaching him to the an Assault squad.
-If you are going to take DC then always take 10.
-How about taking MM attack bike squads instead of normal bikes.
-I would take 2 of the Baal preds.
The core of the list is pretty solid.
I hope this helps.

**Eyclonus**

Me thinks I shalt drop thy company's Champion.

Well yeah I grabbed the honour guard for the chapter banner, as I've read in a few places how its a good combo, with Dante and Lemartes in a DC squad.

I think thats a good suggestion to switch to the MM Attk Bikes. I intended for this to have a "Move Fast, Strike Hard" theme, as my opponents are either an IG Mobile Gunline, SM & CSM gun crazies, and a World Eaters Mech List.

Stupid question: Can Attack Bikes move and shoot or are they just like infantry?

**rednekgunner**

Bikes are relentless, so yes they can.

**Eyclonus**

Holy ********************ing sweet!

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My list at present.

HQ
Commander Dante
Honour Guard
Jump Packs
Blood Angels Chapter Banner
Power Fist X 2
Meltagun

Lemartes

Elites
9 Death Company
Jump Packs

Troops
Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Assault Squad
10 Assault Marines
Power Fist
Melta Bombs

Tactical Squad
10 Tactical Marines
Missile Launcher
Flamer
Rhino
Dozerblade

Fast Attack
Attack Bike Squadron
3 Attack Bikes
Multi-Meltas

Attack Bike Squadron
3 Attack Bikes
Multi-Meltas

Heavy support
Baal Predator
Heavy Bolters

**rednekgunner**

I like this new one better.

**Eyclonus**

Well that settles that issue.

**Iboshi2**

I like the new one too.