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I'm sorry, I know the Codex has just (or is not yet) realesed so not all of you know the rule
There is a upgrade champion for Blood Claws (?) that has a rule that it removes the model that killed him.
Just for curiosity:
1) If there are, like, 30 orks and they kill him, only one of them is killed (obvious but just to make sure).
2) But if there are like, 3 ork nobz with similiar equipment (lets say slugga and choppa) and they kill him, one of them is removed.
But, if one of them had only one wound left, could the Space Wolf player choose to remove the 1 wound or 2 wound nob?
4) Also, if there are f.e. 3 nobz with similiar equipment, but one of them has, lets say, boss pole, they make their attacks at the same time and they have similiar attacks (slugga and choppa) could the Space WOlf player choose to remove the one with boss pole or not, as the attacks were same kind.

Already thanks [insert proper name here] for asnwer.

Could you give us the exact wording for the rule please. Then we can give you exact help.

Regwon wrote:Could you give us the exact wording for the rule please. Then we can give you exact help.

Yes, please. Not everyone has the codex (no-one should really) and as such we cannot help you unless you help us first.

When the Wolf character dies (Lukas the Trickster), he removes every model in base contact with him.

Fairly simple really.

It's a two part rule. It also says that the model which killed Lukas is removed from play.

So, given that, if a tactical squad fires bolters at Lukas' Blood Claws, and Lukas dies... what happens?

Oh, and my LGS got a preview copy of the codex, so it's not exactly illegal to know some of the rules.

So....Nightbringer/Abbadon/Calgar kills him, he kills Nightbringer/Abbadon/Calgar just by keeling over.

Wow, I can't wait to get the SW codex, sounds like alot of fun... for the Space Wolf player...

My 7 Cents.

Eh, Lukas himself costs about as much as a full 10 man blood claw squad, so I don't see him being that game-breaking.

willydstyle wrote:Eh, Lukas himself costs about as much as a full 10 man blood claw squad, so I don't see him being that game-breaking.

What I like are the Lone Wolves - they give up kill points only if you don't kill them.

I think the intention of the power along with the description allows it to take off specific models.

If you read it then it says models touched by.


I am arguing though that when looking at the fluff of the psychic power and what it says it does it totally removes models touched by the line.


It makes perfect sense.

Is it just me or did GW just try to throw as many "unique" rules into the SWs codex just for the sake of doing it?

I'd like to see the exact wording too...

id like to see that removed from the codex myself ... that sounds retardedly powerful ... i know what army i prob wont be playing ever again if this + the world wolf + the wolf claws rerolling hit or wound in cc, choosing after rolling is true lol ....

Making it seem like theyre making SW for the people who lose every game and are terrible ... give them cheat powers and they cant lose! lols ....

Night Lords wrote:Is it just me or did GW just try to throw as many "unique" rules into the SWs codex just for the sake of doing it?

They want to prove SW really are unique, and not just another SM(urf) army?

kill dem stunties wrote:the wolf claws rerolling hit or wound in cc, choosing after rolling is true lol ....

you choose before rolling any dice

Gwar! wrote:

Regwon wrote:Could you give us the exact wording for the rule please. Then we can give you exact help.

Yes, please. Not everyone has the codex (no-one should really) and as such we cannot help you unless you help us first.

GW sent it to a lot of stores for people to look through. So the "(no one should really)" is wrong. GW sent it right to them with the very intention of people to have it to show in store :p

But correct on your last part.. those who have questions need to type out the wording!

So does it say he takes out enemy models in base to base when he dies, or all models in base to base when he dies? Big difference.

All models.

the model that kills him is removed, everyone else in base to base contact with him, ally or enemy on a 4+

puma713 wrote:

willydstyle wrote:Eh, Lukas himself costs about as much as a full 10 man blood claw squad, so I don't see him being that game-breaking.

What I like are the Lone Wolves - they give up kill points only if you don't kill them.

Yes, they really stood out to me too.

Ok, so sorry if I my post didn't say it clearly.
I haven't seen the Codex myself but have only heard of it, will never play with them or will not probaply even ever play against them but I'm just curious.
I think that the wording say something like "Any model that kills him is removed from play".
Now to answer those questions! Shortly it says if a unit with equal close combat equipment but otherwise not equal kills him, can the Space Wolf player choose which one to kill to get maxium help from it (the one nob with bosspole etc.)

This guy + apocalypse super heavies...

Wyomingfox wrote:
Bolter fire and lasgun shots crisscrossed the once peaceful valley. Over this scene of carnage eagerly gazed the newly formed squad of Blood Claws who stood perched along the southern ridgeline. The squad’s sergeant, a member of the elite wolf guard, looked over at his pack and grimaced at their ill-controlled battle lust. With but a glance, he looked up at the moon that hung high above and took note of its pallid light that bathed the ground below. "Almost midnight," he muttered before turning his gaze down and to the west, along the ridge where the full strength of his wolf company was forming up to bring its terrifying strength to bear. His gaze lingered on his fellow pack mates before a brief distortion of his shadow, caught out of the corner of his eye, brought his attention back to his personal surrounding. Slowly he glanced skyward, his look of confusion quickly turning to dismay as he realized the light bearing down on his squad from above was no longer that of the moon’s, but from the mounted spotlight of an Emperor Class Titan. Quickly his mind raced to determine how such an immense war machine could have possibly escaped his keen notice. It was in his final moments that the answer dawned on him….”CREEE!.........”

Far to the south and along the plateau that bordered the valley, a lone imperial officer sat nestled in a wide verandah that overlooked the growing battle taking place beneath. At the sight of the opposing ridgeline exploding with violent force, a wide smile formed across his battle scarred face and he watched with unconcealed glee as the Titan’s plasma battery consumed the sheltered Space Marines in a blazing inferno. “Tactical Genius…Hurr… Hurr… Hurr”… the man chuckled as he leisurely rolled the massive cigar between his fingers. While continuing to survey the mounting damage to the opposing force, however, he could not help but noticed the glint of light reflecting off a minuscule metal surface adjacent to the Titan’s foot. Incredulous, the commander deftly focused his binoculars on the object that had caught his attention and then stared in amazement at his discovery of a single lone Wolf, seemingly gazing in the officer’s direction. The Space Marine, casually leaning against the Titan’s frame, wore a bewildering smile that appeared to mock the commander. Then, in horror, the officer watched as the Space Wolf exploded with a deafening roar. Upon the smoke clearing, a gasp escaped the lips of the officer as he surveyed the scattered hulk of the wrecked titan, and the two sole smoking boots that was all that remained of the snide Wolf. For several moments he stood silent and still, shocked and transfixed by the sudden and unexpected violence visited upon his prized war machine. Shock quickly turned to anger as the realization that the several months of planning he had painstakingly and deliberately undertaken had been wholly and swiftly undone by the actions of a sole marine. Ever so slowly he leaned forward, the priceless cigar being inadvertently crushed in his clenched hand as his body twisted in rage, and screamed “LUKASSSSS!”