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Very very late three days ago and while watching 'The Empire Strikes Back' I began to formulate a slightly inane, 'what if' concept in that could I make a spin-off unit/small company of Imperial Guard based off the rebel forces of Echo Base (most likely station 5-7, or 3-T-8) So I began to brainstorm, sketch and research on how I could pull this off. So I came up with Tantaun riders, snowspeeders (scratch built), plenty of rebel infantry, the turrets from the films... and so on in to the future of impossibility (which included the like of Luke Skywalker in pilots overalls etc). The problem is my modelling standards arent fantasic, and I have never in my life used Greenstuff before. Nevertheless I decided I would at least attempt the concept, even if the guardsmen wouldnt quite look identical to their film counterparts and to at least try to bring a dream into reality (and to stick my head on the Dakka forum chopping-block). If I fail then its just more lessons learned.

My main references have been the various Star Wars books I have built up over the years, and pictures like this one:



The guard are based on Cadians, undergoing a slight change for their boots, extra armour and instead of imperial aquilas the Rebel Ranks as seen in the movies. So after four hours my test model has begun to come together (minus arms and head). I have tried to do the cross-thatched pads like so many of the troopers exhibit in the films, aswell as loosely shoring up the boots against the winter cold. Appologies for picture quality.




Side views, showing some carapace armour..


Front on view, belt still needs tidying up...

Please note this is very VERY WIP, and this is also my first attempt at using Greenstuff. Ultimately I will be improving on my original GS skills as I progress along. Comments on how to improve, what else would actually be in the army, how on earth I could go about things like the gun turrets and so on is all very much appreciated. Finally, thanks for reading and sorry about big chunks of text/me rambling.

Osh

Flinty wrote:

CrazyMez wrote:This is a cool Idea, and I like the boots and the neck collar, you've done. If you did go for this it would be really fun to play. Definitely try and get at least a squad. Then do Sentinel AT-ST walkers. This could be really cool.

But AT-STs are Imperial...

Thats what I was going to say...

If I have to go with Rebel Vehicles I expect I'm going to be stuck with the various hover vehicles from Force Commander.

ImperialTard wrote:Btw, I love (and would love to paint) the sculpted "rank" buttons from the movie. I might just take this green stuff idea and slap it on an officer to give him a "Grand Moff" look.

Thanks! All the rebels in the films have the rank insignia too (because I know a fair few of them were renegades from the Galactic Empire), either on their chest on arm. And then the generals all have their rank on their left side of their chest, which consists of 3 or 4 red circles in a square. Its definitely a nice idea I'm going to be keeping on those I manage to make.

metallifan wrote:Is it just me, or does 'Grand Moff' just sound... Well... Dirty?

And you gotta do up some Ogryns to look like Wompas or whatever the Yeti was called

You have a strange sense of humour... Wampas have now been added to my checklist though. A pack of five... with lots of fur. I'll try to think of converson ideas later.

Marushi wrote:

Oshunai wrote:If I have to go with Rebel Vehicles I expect I'm going to be stuck with the various hover vehicles from Force Commander.

Convert a snowspeeder from an eldar falcon tank, stick a couple brightlances on the front and job's a good one

I plan to scratch build my snowspeeders, as I already have their dimensions in 14mm scale, and so plan to double them and make a blueprint and then go from there.

KingCracker wrote:This has the potential to be a REALLY cool idea. So dont get my hopes up. DO IT DAMMIT!

Thanks. Motivation is what keeps me going.

Thanks to all for the kind and helpful words.

infilTRAITOR wrote:Excellent idea. I've always loved the Rebel SpecForce troopers. Only bloody decent thing about the alliance -EMPIRE ALL THE WAY!

Someone said about making snowspeeders. I think that's a great idea. Mix kits from SM Landspeeders and the Airfix Rebel Snowspeeder. Also, try your local library for inspiration. They usually hold lots of Star Wars graphic novels and will include lots of rebel gear.

If you can, grab one called "Entrenched" which focuses on a SpecForce trooper stationed in EchoBase and has some brilliant pictures. Like this:

No Rebels are way better! (It also can explain why no two of my men will ever be wearing the same clothes...

Snowspeeders/landspeeders being researched, as are Tauntauns, which I have already decided will be based off cold ones, except with fur instead of scales (extensive greenstuffing).

I had already read Entrenched. Its useful for the pictures, even if its a shame he dies at the end.

Update! I have finished my first test mini, bar tidying up his overall look. Pictures below...









Now I have begun to work on my second model, a rebel vanguard with rocket launcher. Colour suggestions and other comments for the test mini are appreciated. Thanks once again.

Osh

guardpiper wrote:It looks nice, but I do not envy you with the amount of green stuffing you will have to do.

I don't envy me either, but once I get into doing it, I really enjoy it.

Cane wrote:Looks great so far! Hope you make the Hoth general guy, Dash Rendar, and other named characters too because they'd fit right in.

Dash Rendar, General Rieekan and Bren Derlin are all on my impossible to do list, in the future.

CrazyMez wrote:

Ah yes good point they are imperial. But they would work well.

I was thinking how could you get Darth vader involved in a rival army, I guess he'd have to be a Chaos Sorcerer.

But would chaos marines work as stormtroopers?

And back on topic that finished model is amazing, it looks just right, its properly proportioned too so it doesn't look like a caricature.

Good work.

There is no way I'm going to try and start another far fetched scheme, and I have seen Darth Vader done in warhammer form at least 3 or 4 times now. So no AT-STs and such. Rebels only!

Thanks for the words on the model.

ImperialTard wrote:That is some SWEET texture.

Thank you sir. It turned out quite easy to achieve.

Now to finish my Vanguard model...

Update. My Rebel Vanguard, nicknamed 'Kenny' is now finished, again bar the tidying up stage! Painting my test mini, aswell as another infatryman begins tomorrow/Monday. Pictures (apologies for poor quality) below.





Comments, advice etc are once again very much appreciated!

Osh

Shattered Soul wrote:Nice. Probably some of the best Star Wars themed conversions I've ever seen.

Thank you sir!

Right. Update time!

My nooby war against greenstuff continues, and I now have 'finished' five infantrymen! So without further ado, pictures!

Crouching trooper, needs tidying up (like all other models so far)


'This is Echo station 3-7. We have spotted Imperial Walkers' was the impression I wanted from this Corporal


The Youngblood of the squad, awaiting further greenstuffing and tidying.


And lastly, a blurry group photo!


Still, I'm happy with the progress I've made so far. It seems my idea isnt failing as I expected it to. I might even be able to make an army out of this... We shall see.

And for my next trick I intend to get started on the prototype one of these DF.9 Anti-infantry turrets (counts as autocannon):



Thanks again for reading! Please do leave comments as appropriate!

On a side note, 200th post on this forum!

ImperialTard wrote:You should go work for GW and direct the modeling of a whole line of these. The Rebel scum look excellent.

Rebel Scum? Never! They are freedom fighters (that and I want to be different from all the filthy empire lovers). For the record I would never work for GW. It'd probably make an even worse hash of running the company than they do. Still, the models I am working on are 'mine' and different from most other things I have seen.

Necroagogo wrote:Kenny looks especially great - nice work on the parka hood. Slap some paint on 'em!

Thank you sir! I'm happy with Kenny. In regards to paint, you took the words right out of my mouth. I intend to get started on them tomorrow after finishing my prototype model of a DF.9 gun turret.

Captain Shrike wrote:nice

Short and sweet answer. Thank you.

Update

I have mostly finished my test mini's paint job, minus his base and general tidying. The trousers look far darker in the picture than they are in person.A picture speaks a thousand words, and so:

Front:


And the back:


Thanks for looking.

To Dash Rendar, SignPoint2Fail, Luna and Glorian Underhill. Thankyou for your positive comments. More motivation for me to keep going with this theme.

Celtic Warrior wrote:Just loving this idea, your greenstuff skill has improved with each mini (ditto the comment about the parka hood).

As for the turrett I definatley see an upturned plantpot and waterdish (thingie they sit in) for the base, as for the top i'm not to sure.... maybe two more of the dish thingies
glued together?

Keep up the good work .

Celtic Warrior

Cheers. I do feel a little more confident with greenstuff now I have used it extensively on five men. I can only get better right? (and yup the parka hood is one of my favourite parts too. I am working on more of them at present.)

Brilliant idea for the turret top. I've got the main base made at the moment, but the turret top has been giving me a headache. So I'll go and try to hunt down some plant water dishes that are small enough for my purposes.

swbruni wrote: Look great now build A snow speeder...........

All in good time my good sir. All in good time.

Hans_posthumus wrote:Damn this is great!
I usually really hate the Imperial guard army's cause there are just that much of them, but this is so cool!

Do you mind if I steal some of you're ideas for my own personal imperial 'snow' guard?

Thanks. Go ahead and steal. I don't mind. But if anyone asks they are my ideas! Mine!

ImperialTard wrote:

Rebel Scum? Never! They are freedom fighters (that and I want to be different from all the filthy empire lovers). For the record I would never work for GW. It'd probably make an even worse hash of running the company than they do. Still, the models I am working on are 'mine' and different from most other things I have seen.

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to modify and paint a model exceptionally well is insignificant next to the power of GW.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Update time!

I've more or less finished painting my five men now (and yes I am aware my painting skill look likes a mess), minus a few tidying stages (that I've only just noticed having taken photos) and doing their bases (I have no snow flock yet).

So without further ado, pictures:

Corporal and Youngblood trooper


Two more troopers (including test mini)


Kenny (with minor painting errors and rocket launcher paint issues)


Group shot while on painting desk


Thanks for reading. More to come.

Edit: On a side note, this has gone from just an idea I was toying with and tried out towards a proper and interesting army for me to work on. As such it will now live in the Blog section. Thankyou Kilkrazy

The good Uruk wrote:theres a company which make figures like that. so for he infantry turret you can buy one of them from star wars miniatures.com or something like that. infact i might have a few laying around....

the whole idea is awesome, loving your greenstuff skills and the painting is decent

Thanks for the compliments. I did have a look on those websites, since they are made by Wizards of the coast. I dislike their turrets, think they look too small and are too expensive. Might hit them up for their snowspeeders though if my airfix/landspeeder/sentinel hybrid doesnt work out.

get to the chopper! wrote:Wow, great conversions and a really nice paintscheme too. Good stuff. That's some solid work for your first effort with greenstuff as well. I'll be following this thread with interest.

Thankyou. My greenstuff skill can only get better.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Really nice. But you just know I'm going to build a snowtrooper army now .

In regards to your last picture-OH NOES LADS!!!!! IZ LICTOR BEHIND YOU!!!! RUNZZZ!!!!!

The 'Lictor effect' wasnt intentional, but it sfunny. Build a snowtrooper army and my rebel alliance will fight you to the death!

CalPerr wrote:I love it. The Rocket launcher guy is the best. His hat came out really good

Thanks. The parka is the part I'm most happy with, Working on some more of those at present.

Small Update.

Working on another five men, and a wookiee (counts as stormtroopers?). Pictures by mid-week next week at the very latest.

Writing this while waiting for GS to cure.

Cilithan wrote:Great idea and fantastic execution mate. Compliments.

So I take it you're going to convert say 4 Valkyries/Vendettas into Snow Speeders? That would be cool to see

The TaunTauns make for great RoughRiders (check out Forgeworlds Mukaali!)

Also, the snowdevil beast/thingy that Luke fought in the cave... Convert a squad of those and make them Ogryns on the battlefield

Good luck with the rest. It all looks very promissing.

Cilithan

Thanks for the compliments.

Snowspeeders I dont know what I'm 'counting as' but I've just ordered a couple of Airfix snowspeeder kits from varying sources to have an experiment with.

Tauntauns as RR and Wampas as Ogryns are both on my 'to do' list.

Thanks again.

Valcatta wrote:This is really cool. Can't wait to see the wookie. Make Han Solo the ST sergeant

Thankyou! Though, I cant stress this enough. Wookiee. Everyone always spells it wrong! But he is coming along okay... despite my issues with GS. Han Solo is likely to be in my Command unit, or as a special character. I havent decided. I know I want to make Dash Rendar and a few lesser characters before I try and even tackle the big ones though.

person person wrote:This is awesome.

Cheers my good sir.

gretar wrote:Your paint looks a bit thick , try watering it down a notch

I find gryphonne sepia(sp?) very useful for shading white , so throw a wash into all the deep areas and theres a good shading effect . I like your green stuff work , even though it needs some improvement(mine is terrible , so dont necesserlytake my opinion into count)

Great job tough , and good luck on the rest

Painting will always be my weak area. Aye I've gone with more watered down paint now and its improving. The camera didnt help.

Tell me about the GS. Though I'm slowly picking up techniques and my pads are slowly becoming more uniform. I just have to keep at it.

Thanks for the luck. I'll need it!

Exarch_Nektel wrote:This is great- you should get together with the guy who painted the snow troopers and play a game or two!

I really like the rocket trooper, and I think that you should stick with this theme- I'd love to see tauntaun rough riders.

Thanks. I intend to stick with this theme now I've got my path set. As before RR are still in the planning stage. When the army gets bigger I'll set off to teach those Imperial lackeys their lesson!

Flinty wrote:Han Marbo, surely

I intend to have Dash Rendar as a Marbo Character. I expect Han to be either Straken, or my army General. Havent decided.

Work continues on my infantry and Wookiee prototype for now...

browncoat_independent wrote:Hey you should use your wookiee as nork the bodyguard

Also good like with this i like what you put out so far

Flinty wrote:

browncoat_independent wrote:Hey you should use your wookiee as nork the bodyguard

Actually, thats not a bad idea. General Solo with Chewie as his bodyguard pulling arms off all over the place

I have begun to dream of two stormtrooper squads, one of Wookiees, and the other with Bothans (they will have infiltrate ). Chewie and Han as part of my command squad, now that you have suggested it is a must.

oggers wrote:Maybe captured AT-STs.
Nice work so far.

Thanks, and I'm sorry but I refuse to use anything Imperial on principle, so no AT-STs or otherwise.

Tomorrow, Greenstuff Gods willing I should have an update for you all.

Update

Finished the five more infantrymen's modelling, minus tidying and a minor amount of GS work to do. A fair few mistakes, but I'm learning. Pictures..

3 Basic Infantry (picture quality really went to pot on these)




Sniper in fur lined cloak


Sergeant with Vibro-sword (counts as CC weapon or Power Weapon)


Whats next? Painting up these five modelled infantry for a start. My trial Wookiee is slowly being finished being made, and I'll either begin on some turrets, or tauntauns. Havent made up my mind as yet. So whatever I finish first you will see I guess...

Thanks for reading.

No replies. Oh well, next update.

Inspiration struck yesterday night due to this image, and so I have created my own version of Dash Rendar (counts as Sly Marbo)



Right, and now pictures of my Dash Rendar, in model form. Used a few parts I salvaged off my own models and so are coloured. Stripping has already been done though, as these pictures were WIP. Needs tidying and such, but its looking better IRL than in the pictures.







Thanks for reading.

Cilithan wrote:Cool again mate. I like how you GS the armourpatches. A lot of work in an IG army, but it does pay of. Now get painting allready because Im anxious to see how those recent models look painted.

Cilithan

Thanks! The greenstuff is alot of work (it takes up to 3/4 hours for me to finish a mini now, rather than the 10 minutes it used to take!) Saying that I'm really happy with the results. And painting is about to begin.

Miss Dee wrote:"Imperial troops have entered the base, Imperial troops have entered...." fantastic.

Cheers. I plan to have a mini in the next 1 or 2 squads that envisages that exact quote fumbling with a radio set while seemingly under fire.

dashrendar wrote:ok, you have made this thread even better! you are doing a Dash Rendar! I am a happy person now! cant wait to see it painted.

Painting soon, and I thought you might be pleased. Your username says it all really!

get to the chopper! wrote:Very nice - you can see your greenstuff skills progressing as the thread goes on as well. The last guy looks awesome, but to be more like the photo he could do with a little more hair over his forehead.

Thanks again. And in regards to the hair-issue thanks to your advice I have just fixed that issue. He is looking better now, with less of a huge forehead.

Now to try and decide on some colours I think...

A small update from me, since I have been rather productive today (for a change).

First off, Dash Rendar WIP, with some paint. Still a fair bit to do though..




And my other current WIP, which came on as a spur of the moment. Seriously WIP, and the helmet needs serious work, but can you recognise who it is meant to be?




Thanks for reading once again.

Disjointed Entity wrote:Skywalker!
With Pilot uniform!

Correct Sir!

Briancj wrote:If you're going to make the Luke, then you should remove the blade, and use some clear Plastruct rod. Comes in a variety of thicknesses and colors, including Blue.

Excellent work!

--B.

Scrazza wrote:they look bloody awesome! good work

ChristmasMarine wrote:I love this, and can't wait to see more

person person wrote:Awesome, I second the idea about the clear rod.

To all. Thankyou very much for the kind and motivating words! The blade was just for show as I was making the model as I wanted to get proportions more correct. Still correcting/working on the helmet and clothing now. Glow-y blue rod has been ordered and will be added when the rest of the model nears completion.

More to come...

Owain wrote:Very well done! The sniper and the Vanguard with rocket launcher are still my favorites.

Thanks. The Vanguard remains my favourite finished infantryman. The sniper I'm not sure about, but he isnt done yet... so, we'll see.

Flinty wrote:C-3PO and R2-D2 would probably make pretty cool Savants for Inquisitor Leia's retinue

Lord Kaesar II wrote:Yeah, but 3PO's gotta have some silly fail rules made for him. You know, the equivalent of a BS 0 low WS, low initiative machine, practically 0s all the way down. Maybe even some special rules making him run at the first signs of trouble but hanging with R2 nonetheless, lol

Miss Dee wrote:Gotta see R2, 3P0 and Solo.

To Dee, Kaesar and Flinty. Thanks peeps. I do intend to do R2 and C3PO at some point. Its more of a matter of planning the model out and finding the parts to convert them!

As I go through these models there are usually three or four stages. The first is the planning stage, I tend to sketch parts of a model to see what works and what parts I am going to use. The second is making the dry/test run. The third final construction and the last stage being painting.

Currently there is a small load of models I want to do, but havent made it through the planning stage yet and so are currently tagged 'impossible' in my notebook. Han is currently in the planning stage (I'm going for the clothes he wears throughout EP:IV because Its easier to model). Chewie is through to the dry/test run stage. Leia, now you have given me the idea Flinty is also in the planning stage (again with an EP:IV look). I really want to include R2 or 3PO at some point but I have no idea to carry them out to stay in scale with the infantry already completed. Any ideas or suggestions on parts on how to pull those off are really appreciated!

Another update as an indication of progress. I've just about started to make Solo too and a few more infantry but have run out of GS. They'll have to wait.

So... pictures (memo to self, get a better camera). I'll probably take and upload more when I find the time.

Some minis on the paint station


Dash Rendar, almost finished


Luke Skywalker, almost finished with snow base! (I am still awaiting the plastic rod to arrive and so I am leaving the blue blade on for now)


I am also currently writing out an army list so I can work out what I have to do/can get done.

Thanks for reading once again.

ChristmasMarine wrote:very nice, i love how the Skywalker uniform turned out. Didn't they have a servitor model they used in a campagain example in the BRB the would probably help for C3PO?

Thanks. I'm quite happy with the orange coloured pilot uniform now. I don't own the BRB. Any chance of a link to the image of the servitor?

malfred wrote:Love the work on this. Any hopes of a gutted Tauntaun?

CalPerr wrote:The Skywalker model is awsome

And a Tauntaun would make a great objective marker

Thanks CalPerr and malfred. Now you mention it that is a good idea! When I start the Tauntauns any hashed/ruined atempts can be made to be gutted on a 40mm base as an objective.

firebat wrote:Tauntauns for roughriders perhaps?

Thanks, but I have already stated I am going to do some earlier in the thread, after I finish my infantry.

SonofGuilliman wrote:Both Luke and Dash are great. Gotta worry about Rendar though, hope he doesn't get frost bite.

SoG

Thanks Gulliman. And yes it did cross my mind when I was basing Dash yesterday. Surely he needs more clothes? Then again he IS Dash Rendar and so doesnt feel the cold!

Meanwhile I'm starting more infantry today.

Update time!

I have been working on a 'counts as' lascannon team, and have had some success, basing the model upon the Anti-vehicle turret used on Hoth (though according to Wookieepedia the turret is meant to frequently break down and was originally intended for use in the Clone Wars. Well... you get what you pay for I guess). I havent finished the second crewmember yet either... or cleaned the edge of the base. Oh and the white on the dish is snow, and needs work.

So without further ado, pictures!



A couple of detail shots:



Again, some mistakes I need to fix, here there and everywhere.

Next, a finished picture of the 10 man squad I have been working on since the project began:


If you want individual shots of anything, just ask and I'll do my best to oblige.

And lastly, this is likely to be the last update from me for a week and a bit, as I head up to Uni on Saturday, and everything has to be transferred, boxed, left behind etc

Thanks for reading.

Praetor_of_Ultramar wrote:Yeah, that's intense.

Thankyou sir!

get to the chopper! wrote:This is absolutely fantastic, and it just keeps getting better. That squad as a whole look awesome. Keep up the good work!

Thanks. When I try hard enough to ignore my painting errors I am quite happy with how the squad has turned out. 1 months work aint too bad really.

Hans_posthumus wrote:Hey really keeps getting better! Can't wait to see what you do with the Tauntauns and others! What are you working on now?

And how did you do the snow. Woodland scenic?

Greetings!

Thanks. Currently I intend to finish my heavy weapon team, add an extra three men to make a platoon command squad for them, and the get started on either: wampas, tauntauns or a second infantry squad. Thats up to vote really, so you people tell me what I should attempt next!

Snow is made from the old, bicarbonate of soda, mixed with watered down PVA, and white paint, then applied liberally to the base. Thanks go to Gundam Mecha for that.

CalPerr wrote:That lascannon rocks! Needs a little snow on the front edge though

Ta. I think you are right about the snow needing to go all the way round. I'll fix it shortly.

Disjointed Entity wrote:

twomas rox wrote:I must say, this is a great ideal. I love the progress so far.. Kudos to you!

Now if someone can do the Empire! That would be a great game to see on the table top!

Someone is doing Storm Trooper Marines.

Thanks chaps. Though I doubt I'll play much since I am bound to lose (my playing skills is non-existent). I can also see the problem my 'fluffy' army will suffer from, and that is a lack of tanks to the core, so it'll look nice but play badly on the table.

The good Uruk wrote:Well done, looking great so far!

And one last, thankyou.

To all, thanks for the kind words, really keeps me going.

endtransmission wrote:Wow. I go quiet for a while and you go finishing loads of stuff. It's looking great!

It's entirely possible to do gunline guard. You could even replace tanks with turrets of varying types for Griffin/bombard etc. and replace Chimera with a stationary emplacement. Ok, you'd be doing yourself out of some speed, but I know guard players that just use Chimera as bunkers anyway

To get some faster transport, you could always do "counts-as" Valkyrie that looks like mothballed Republic Gunships.

Thanks! I do want to make some bunkers in future (a-la command points from the Hoth level in Star Wars Battlefront), and for a artillery I envisage the Ion Cannon itself. But both of these projects lie in the far future.

Valkyries as Republic Gunships! Now theres a good idea. Something like this?

Lord Kaesar II wrote:I'd vote for a second infantry squad to your platoon, purely because i know from personal experience that not getting it done and going into other projects just gets all the projects and ideas to pile up. I know this from having a small contingent of space marines, a partial force of imperials, and some witch hunter ideas that i'm throwing around while doing this, just resulting in a whole lot more partially finished and thought through projects, as well as an ork and necrons hanging around. Just my 2 cents there

Hrmm. I think you are right. When I get the chance I'll start on the second squad and get this little section finished before moving on to further projects.

My order of things I will finish now will be roughly something like this:

1. Finish platoon Command squad
2. Start and complete second squad
3. Finish Han Solo/Chewbacca conversions
4. Do Rebel Pilots as a special weapons squad
5. Tauntaun Riders
6. Wampas
7. Other stuff..

infilTRAITOR wrote:Dude. DUDE! I've not been about for the last two weeks as, like you, just started Uni. and I come back online and find all of this.

Some really imaginative conversions here. I adore them, I really do.

Praise from this quarter is praise indeed. Thanks infilTRAITOR!

endtransmission wrote:Yeah, that's the one
I think the design fits as a troop drop ship better than the Valk design anyway

Ah thought so. The republic gunship as valk is an idea thats really stuck with me now. I'll follow through once I work out how to convert a valkyrie into a gunship.

To all with the gunship idea. You people are heroes!

Currently all my warhammer stuff is boxed up, but when I get it out again I am going to have a tinker with a valkyrie kit and plenty of plasticard and see what happens. If I have to resort to toys at the end I will.

@Praetor. But why would I need servitors if I dont have any tanks? I am thinking of using R2-D2 and 3PO as inquisitor retinue, or excess personel in the command squad.

endtransmission wrote:Servitors don't have to be for carrying out repairs. Servitors are automatons used to carry out many other tasks, including weapon servitors. I'm sure there are also servitors for recording data, tactical analysis, targeting systems... If you can, take a look at the DH/WH codexes as the Inquisitors/Witchhunters can include servitors in their retinues for various tasks

Ah my bad sorry. Servitors = droids from star wars then? Hrm then it might make more sense to have varrying droids as a retinue for some jawas.... maybe.

endtransmission wrote:The more I think about it, you're probably better off using C3PO as the Comms officer in your command group with R2 as a Master of the Fleet?

For other droids, yes, using them to replace the Techpriest's servitors would work. I'd make the Techpriest either a Jawa (using plague monks) or an Ugnaught

R2-D2 would be a comms officer, and C3PO as an astropath, because that way I can have Admiral 'fishface' Ackbar as a master of the fleet.

Got to have Jawas. Anywhere I can get a single plague monk sprue on the cheap? Then I could have a few droids from out of Episode IV.

Mellon wrote:Very creative and skilled. I can hardly believe this is your first go at greenstuff. Your sense of detail is impressive!

Thankyou sir! If my paintjobs werent so bad I'd be very happy at where I am.

I say go with using Valkyries cores and plasticard to construct T-47 landspeeders. More accurate for the time period and 100% accurate for Hoth. They would make a really good Vendetta. The might be a little bigger, but just call them T-47a-II or something and say they are modified for personnel carrying.

Or you could do a SM speeder with plasticard if you wanted a more accurate size.


Hope this helps!

Valkries cockpit cores.... hrm.

To be fair I have been playing around with this idea, and I will most likely add them once the ground forces are getting more complete. (so the T-47s would be count as thunderbolts maybe) I intend to work from blueprints out of several Star Wars vehicles books, and cobble together parts from the sentinel, landspeeder and heavy weapons teams along with healthy amounts of plasticard to make some. I know how iconic the T-47s are in the Battle of Hoth, and so I want to do it right.

endtransmission wrote:You could just buy the necessary bits for one jawa from bitsandkits.co.uk, or one of the other bits sites?

Once I am fully settled at my new address I'll order the parts. bitsandkits is pretty reliable right? And I'm trying to resist the temptation to buy a whole plague monk set, make 20 jawas and then have a sandcrawler 'counts as' baneblade.

And thanks endtransmission you are being really helpful on the ideas and concepts front.

endtransmission wrote:No worries. Ideas are my forte... it's realising those ideas... that's where my troubles lay. I'm too easily distracted by the next shiny idea

bitsndkits is my site of choice. The other one I tried (I foget the name now) still owes me bits. I ordered crows and was sent cows (?!)

I'd see a Sandcrawler more as a Colossus/Capitol Imperialis than a Baneblade as it is much much larger with thicker armour and the ability to transport troops/droids.

Moved in, parts ordered. I tend to carry out ideas as I come up with them, so projects keep on going.

Lord Kaesar II wrote:Well, 3PO could otherwise be a savant if not an astropath. He does have the fluff that way

Yeah, he could be a savant. Make the model first, worry about stats later I think.

Anung Un Rama wrote:Wow. Let me beginn by saying that this is damn awesome. I was skeptical at first, but I can really see how your GS skills have improved over time, I especially like your Luke Skywalker. What are you using him as, btw.?
The paintjob is okay, but it could be better. Have you tried the new washes? They make everything I paint look better.

I think it's fantastic how much time and effort you put into these model and I'm looking forward to the rest of this blog.
That being said, you are aware of a little game called "Star Wars Miniatures"?

Thanks sir! Luke will probably be a Lord Commissar, but thats all up in the air right now. My painting skills.... meh. They will get better as I practice the colour scheme so more.

I have heard of Star Wars Minatures, and they are inspiration for some of my models (I also looked at them for snowspeeders and for turrets, but I am currently undecided on that matter.

person person wrote:LOL

OP's Luke is way better.

Thanks person person!

No updates incoming for a good week or so at least, as I am currently in my freshers week! Busy busy!