Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 04:57:55
Subject: 1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
|
HQ: Avatar - 155
Heavy support:
War walker with scatter laser and star cannon x2 - 140
Troops:
Storm guardians x20 with fusion gun x2 and Warlock with Enhance - 242
Storm guardians x20 with fusion gun x2 and Warlock with Enhance - 242
Storm guardians x20 with fusion gun x2 and Warlock with Enhance - 242
Storm guardians x20 with fusion gun x2 and Warlock with Enhance - 242
Storm guardians x19 with fusion gun x2 and Warlock with Enhance - 234
Comes in at 1497 points.
|
Check out my Youtube channel!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 05:08:17
Subject: Re:1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Storm Trooper with Maglight
|
Looks damn solid. Pretty much the best Eldar list I've seen for 5th ed.
This volume of str 3 attacks is going to destroy pretty much everything. it's just a shame that you can't stand and rapid fire a pistol anymore. If you could do that, your army would be top tier for sure.
Just make sure that the avatar stays in a nice supporting spot while the guardians melee, so he gives them all fearless. You wouldn't want a squad of 20 to run away would you?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 05:11:37
Subject: 1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Swift Swooping Hawk
|
Repeat after me: Guardians are not Orks.
Really, the problem with the horde style Storm Guardian assault is that, well, Storm Guardians aren't orks. They fall down easier (weak save, no KFF< in addition to T3) and hit less hard (-1 attack, no furious charge) and have no PK nobs. Yeah, you've got some bs3 meltaguns in there (plus the nice melta off of the Avatar) but... I'm not really a fan.
|
The Battle Report Master wrote:i had a freind come round a few weeks ago to have a 40k apocalpocalpse game i was guards men he was space maines.... my first turn was 4 bonbaonbardlements... jacobs turn to he didnt have one i phased out. This space for rent, contact Gwar! for rights to this space.
Tantras wrote: Logically speaking, that makes perfect sense and I understand and agree entirely... but is it RAW? |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 05:17:15
Subject: 1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
|
But that's where you're wrong! With Enhance my Storm Guardians are initiative 5!
|
Check out my Youtube channel!
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 05:24:10
Subject: Re:1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Nigel Stillman
|
Fascinating.
I'm wondering if Conceal wouldn't be more helpful. Perhaps give it to the front squads, and then the squads in back get Enhance?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 08:23:22
Subject: 1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
|
Well, that's a lot of Guardians at the battle field.
However, foot slogging is a slow way to die.
You need to play test it to see how is works.
|
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 08:24:09
Subject: Re:1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Storming Storm Guardian
|
Against any shooty army, this is going to die...
You have got no transport, and before You are going to get to cc You will probably get blown to pieces.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/21 10:41:04
Subject: Re:1500 point Eldar
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
New Zealand
|
This would be silly and only marginally effective but definitely fun to play  .
Actually I think the Avatar is the weakest link in this army, without any tanks or Wraithlords he becomes the one and only target for enemy heavy weapons and particularly without Fortune to help, he will die pretty quick, leaving the Guardians without a Fearless bubble and paper mache armour.
I would drop 1-2 squads and add in a Farseer with Fortune and 2 basic Wraithlords to keep the Avatar company (just take sword and shuriken cannon and run most of the time). Swap one squad from Enhance to Conceal and screen everything else with them, a more expensive but more effective way to do this is with Harlies but then you kinda move further and further away from the Guardian spam concept. Remember that those fusion guns are only BS3, flamers are usually a better choice for Storm Guardians but you really need the AT power, consider swapping the War Walkers weapons around maybe. Also if possible War Walkers should be in seperate squads if they aren't already, 2 of the same weapon is usually a better idea, and 2 x scatter lasers is probably a more points effective use than starcannons.
|
|
 |
 |
|