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I have been making an arbites army for a while, and now with the onset of the new Guard codex which makes using the codex viable for arbites i need some suggestions on how to make a chimera using a rhino chassis.

so far i have a few options.

1. Convert a turret for the Rhino
2. stop whining and using chimeras
3. use rhinos and just say counts as
4. use something totally different

now i don't particularly want to do 2. and would prefer to use the Rhino as it just feels and looks better in arbite armies (imo ofc)

has anyone got any suggestions?

also any suggestion for Valkyrie/vulture replacements would also be apreciated

thanks for any help

Sgt.Roadkill

Hmm. I guess it all depends on your economic situation/ aesthetic choices. What do you like about the rhino over the chimera? Which weapon options do you plan to take for your chimeras? Are you looking to do some heavy converting and/or scratchbuilding? Would you be willing to drop some extra money on other sprues (for instance, to make rhinos look beefier you may want to use the extra side armor platings that the vindicator sprue has. Honestly, I don't have much conversion experience myself but I'll be glad to help where I can.

Valkyrie/Vulture replacements might be a little tougher. For some reason the Russian Hind Helicopter comes to mind, but I'm sure that's not what you're going for. My rationale is that the Arbites would have access to lower tech equipment, such as Helicopters. Of course, I know next to nothing about the Arbites, so take my ideas with a grain of salt.
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Well, if you don't do it I might have to do a Valhallan Air Cav with these suckers.

Good luck, and I'll try to help where I can!

Repressors. Just put the heavy bolter on a pintle and the multilaser on the small turret. Also interestingly I suppose that the Repressor might have been called the Badger at one point, because that's what the forgeworld link says:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Badger.htm

in response to why i like the Rhino over the Chimera its more of a fluff thing, i've not found any official fluff where the arbites use anything except Rhinos and repressors. (with the occasional gifted leman russ to certain Precinct forts as rewards, which tend to lie in the back of the hanger and get dusty, working on one of these atm)

i was planning on using the Repressor as a command tank with its own rules, which kind of puts it out of the picture. I was also thinking of using repressors as Hellhounds.

weapons wise its probably going to be heavy bolters all round as the repressor/s take up position as flame/suppression tanks.

i was thinking maybe using the sister of battle Imolator and removing all the overly ornate stuff but that seems a little bit extreme. Anyone ever used the FW one, cause thats the right shape now i come to think of it. Although thinking about it maybe using the immolator as the hellhound would be a better idea.


in terms of the Valkyrie idea helicopter fits the bill but the Hind is a bit to behind the times or is it hmmmm i wonder what it would look like in dark navy.

thanks for the brain waves boys

I don't hate the idea fluffwise - I can see marines palming off their battle-damaged Rhinos to 'non-frontline' local forces like the Arbites (similar hand-me-downs are not uncommon in the real world), and the Arbites then repairing and modifying such vehicles as best they can, resulting in counts-as Chimeras etc.

Take the 'counts-as' thing seriously, make the Rhinos look like they actually have Chimera stats, e.g. no side hatches, a front-hull mounted weapon etc. Done well, they could look great.

Helicopters would work very well for counts-as Arbites Valkyries/Vendettas but I would go something a little more hi-tech looking like a V-22 (example here).

Alternatively, I've always found that ducted fans always look very sci-fi on helicopter models (think Nurgle Blight Drone).

Also, have you thought about going the wheeled route with your counts-as chimeras? After all, tank tracks would do a number on those lovely cobblestone Imperial streets...

DoW

That repressor looks like the love child of an M113 and an MRAP!

The Osprey looks awesome and i think would fit quite well, hmm tasty. Only issue i can see is the only kits i can find are either far to small or those Italari or what ever they are called 1:48 scale models and i am not sure how well they'd fit. :/

ok once i've gone to GD UK and burned lots of money on FW stuff i'll throw some together and see what i come up with.

I had a brain wave earlier about using SOB IMolators but replacing their turrets with CHimera turrets but how well that would work/ cost is a different issue

or maybe just throwing chimera turrets on rhino chasis with some conversion work... still not sure

plan at GD is to get repressor and IMmolator with extra Armour of some description for both and nice big dozer blade for the immolator if i can't find any suitable replacement by smashing up children's toys

From a Chimera-esque stand point I would reccommend using the Repressor... it has a small turret that you could mount a heavy bolter, in place of the storm bolter, and the pintle mounted heavy flamer. Other than that it appears to have the same sort of crew compartment. Put a large armored dozer blade to show its AV12 in front... and to do the AV10 sides, just flip the doors around to show the meshy part that normally on the inside.

For a Hellhound... use the immolator as a starting point. Cut the plate section that goes across the top of the tank, in half. So that you only have the circular collar for the turret. Use whatever turret you want. Place over the opening for the rhinos rear top hatch the top half of a cylinder... to show it has all that fuel.

Alternatively you could buy all the chimeras and hellhounds you need and simply replace their track hull sections with rhino ones. It'd add about $20 to the cost of each tank if you got the rhinos of Warstore or some other site.


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Ospreys and hinds... are kinda silly for the arbites. If you're using Valkyries and you want the to look different, you'd be better off just incorporating features of those into a valkyrie. Maybe replacing a Valkyries engines and wings with big turbo fans or wings with an Ospreys tilt rotor nacels.

i found these earlier today and after having a glare at stuff i was thinking using the top of a vindicator and the side armour and put them in the pincle weapon slot




after thinking about it for a while and reading some fluff on the Valkyrie i think just keeping the stock one would be fine but just painted it in obvious colours such as the LAPD chopper shown below

Hi,

I am currently working on a 10 man Arbites squad that are decked out in LAPD SWAT colours. So far I have half the squad built, a converted Land Speeder built, a half built custom precinct and a Repressor. Word of advice, DO NOT BUY A REPRESSOR!!! I had real problems with my first one, (all the resin pieces were too small) so I demanded a second one and I got it (and it was still too small). Clearly they have messed up the casting of the Repressors so I would advise against them. The reason Arbites use Rhinos is because they are dirt cheap and easy to repair, also they look a lot meaner and don't have to carry munitions that might cook off. Also, there are a set of rules for the Repressor but I'm not sure where they are.

I would use rhinos personally because its more real. As for Valk's, no idea, thats why I did a speeder.

The OC-D

i was only going to use 1 repressor, my mate had no problem with his. Maybe its the current batch or somthing?

i still really want one maybe its not worth the risk though :/

The casting they did for the conversion kit was based off an earlier rhino model. The resin in the full kit works like a champ. Work w/ FW to get a later casting. I had the same issue when I did up my AA army, big pain in the ass.

I guess I need to think of how to make the army work w/ the new guard codex as opposed to the WH codex.

One thing you can do is go to Ebay, look up Hoard O Bits. This guy has tons of options bit wise and pretty reasonable prices. You can basically Kit bash anything from his range of stuff. That can help you out instead of buying whole model kits.

Blarg is the guy your refering to a GW bits guy or does he deal in other stuff? cause i got a UK bits guy i use for convenience.

Spark how did you find the WH list? i found it a pain in the arse to be honest. I am thinking of using IG with WH allies, either arco-flagellants or Assasin, also means i can have 2 units of normal arbites in rhinos, backed up with IG vet squad unit in chimera and penal legionaries (gah ok wrong section i should keep that somewhere else )

The WH list is a fun one to run. Arbites in Repressors, with bolter and sniper scouts as troops. Exorcists for heavy support, i have cyber-hounds counting as Arco's, and tooled out Inq and inq lord to act as a fire base and secondary counter-assault.

The list is missing some heavy hitters and I haven't really updated it for either the new Space marine or IG codex's.

Hoard deals in GW bits wise.He has it organized by 40K, Fantasy, BIN, Auction, and then by different armies. He also sells reaper stuff and various other gaming stuff

where did you find those above turrets can you post link please

Lextheimpaler wrote:where did you find those above turrets can you post link please

http://www.daemonscape.co.uk/index1.html