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2009/09/23 22:44:20
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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I was told at GW that the minimum range of the basilisk (36") only applies if you are using Indirect Fire, and that there is no such restriction when using RLOS.
However, my mates at the FLGS say that the minimum range ALWAYS applies.
I haven't used it in a battle yet, (only got it the other day) but I'll need to know this kinda stuff. Who's got the right idea? The FLGS or the GW guys?
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" 
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2009/09/23 22:45:44
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Why is this a Poll? This is a RaW thread yes?
There is no Minimum Range when firing Directly. Anyone who says there is is not playing by the rules (This is a RaW thread so I can say that  )
Page 58, BRB:
Ordnance Barrage weapons
Differently from other unit types, vehicles carrying ordnance barrage weapons can choose to fire them either directly or as a barrage - declare before you fire.
If fired directly at the target, they are treated exactly like normal ordnance weapons (ignoring the minimum range in the weapon's profile).
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2009/09/23 22:52:58
Subject: Re:Basilisk: Minimum Range
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^^^Yes^^^
As a side note, Griffon and Colossus have it specially noted that they Cannot fire directly. This could help you figure this out without ever lifting the rulebook or asking Gwar!.
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2009/09/23 22:53:48
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Thank you Gwar!.
I put it as a poll becuase I was not sure of the rules and didn't figure that there was such a quick and obvious answer. (I didn't know that RAW mentioned it)
Once again, Gwar! is Right.
Automatically Appended Next Post: (And Iboshi2)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/09/23 22:54:41
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/09/23 22:55:03
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Thank you Gwar!.
I put it as a poll becuase I was not sure of the rules and didn't figure that there was such a quick and obvious answer. (I didn't know that RAW mentioned it)
Once again, Gwar! is Right.
Heh, No problem mate  Make sure to slap those guys with the Rulebook (the big one)
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2009/09/23 23:02:01
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Yes, sir! *salute*
No Little Red Book for them! They get the hard cover!
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/09/24 02:11:40
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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It's an easy enough mistake to make, but the answer's pretty incontestable when you look it up.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 02:13:52
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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lol yea, polls really only work when there are 2 or more valid options.
this is like asking whats your favorite flavor of ice cream, chocolate or 3.
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2009/09/24 02:16:18
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Horst wrote:lol yea, polls really only work when there are 2 or more valid options.
this is like asking whats your favorite flavor of ice cream, chocolate or 3.
I like AMD better than Audi.
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2009/09/24 02:56:10
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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It's not called "3", it's called Neapolitan.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 03:02:39
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Orkeosaurus wrote:It's not called "3", it's called Neapolitan.
And being 3/4 Italian, I can tell you Neapolitan ice cream is about as Italian as Tacos are Canadian
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2009/09/24 03:04:43
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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What are you talking about? Neapolitan was French, not Italian.
(The real question is, why did they name an ice cream after him?)
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 03:11:42
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Orkeosaurus wrote:What are you talking about? Neapolitan was French, not Italian.
(The real question is, why did they name an ice cream after him?)
This is why we need a facepalm ork. It's named after Napoli (Naples in English) you dolt. You are thinking of Napoleon.
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2009/09/24 03:16:56
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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No, I don't mean the movie guy with the quesadillas.
The short guy with the hat. Who was beaten by Hitler. In actual history.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 03:51:39
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Orkeosaurus wrote:No, I don't mean the movie guy with the quesadillas.
The short guy with the hat. Who was beaten by Hitler. In actual history.
Wait wut? Hitler came a little bit after...
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2009/09/24 03:53:06
Subject: Re:Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Now that that's settled, there actually isn't such a thing as indirect fire. There's direct fire and barrage. It's pretty common for people to use the term indirect fire as both the opposite of direct fire and a synonym for barrage, and that leads to some odd misconceptions.
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2009/09/24 04:02:26
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Gwar! wrote:Orkeosaurus wrote:No, I don't mean the movie guy with the quesadillas.
The short guy with the hat. Who was beaten by Hitler. In actual history.
Wait wut? Hitler came a little bit after...
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 06:16:11
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Problem Gwar!?
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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2009/09/24 07:41:36
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Also, Napoleon was at average height for frenchmen at his time. The english are notorious for their problems with measurement conversions.
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In one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 6", kill a few guys with his flamer, assault 6", kill two more guys with his bayonet, flee 12", regroup when assaulted, react 6", kill one more guy with his bayonet and then flee another 12".
So in one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 42" and kill more than 5 people. At the same time a Chimera at top speed on a road can move 18"... |
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2009/09/24 08:00:53
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Webbe wrote:Also, Napoleon was at average height for frenchmen at his time. The english are notorious for their problems with measurement conversions.
True. He looked small with his bodyguard, but that's because they were the elite forces selected (among other things) for being tall and imposing.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/09/24 09:59:02
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Webbe wrote:Also, Napoleon was at average height for frenchmen at his time. The english are notorious for their problems with measurement conversions.
I am still significantly taller than him, so as far as I am concerned, he is still short.
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2009/09/24 11:35:03
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Drunkspleen wrote:Webbe wrote:Also, Napoleon was at average height for frenchmen at his time. The english are notorious for their problems with measurement conversions.
I am still significantly taller than him, so as far as I am concerned, he is still short.
His actual height was about 1.7m (5 feet 7 inches), average height for the time or slightly taller. Confusion has sometimes arisen because of different values for the French inch (pouce) of the time (2.7 cm) and for the Imperial inch (2.54 cm).
So what are you 6' 8"?
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2009/09/24 11:49:50
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Gwar! wrote:Drunkspleen wrote:Webbe wrote:Also, Napoleon was at average height for frenchmen at his time. The english are notorious for their problems with measurement conversions.
I am still significantly taller than him, so as far as I am concerned, he is still short.
His actual height was about 1.7m (5 feet 7 inches), average height for the time or slightly taller. Confusion has sometimes arisen because of different values for the French inch (pouce) of the time (2.7 cm) and for the Imperial inch (2.54 cm).
So what are you 6' 8"?
6' 2", 7 inches is significant by my standards.
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2009/09/24 11:52:35
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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 Tall bastard. I am only 5' 11.5" (6' with shoes )
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2009/09/24 13:38:13
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Sslimey Sslyth
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Orkeosaurus wrote:No, I don't mean the movie guy with the quesadillas.
The short guy with the hat. Who was beaten by Hitler. In actual history.
Movie guy with the quesadillas???? I think I just blew my pop-culture fuse.
To back up Gwar on this one, Neapolitan refers to someone or something that is related to Naples, and has absolutely no bearing whatsoever to the historical figure, Napoleon. In fact, the word Neapolitan's origins extend almost three centuries before Napoleon became a general in France.
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2009/09/24 14:23:54
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Napolian Dynamite I assume. gak film.
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2009/09/24 15:38:57
Subject: Basilisk: Minimum Range
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gwar! wrote: Tall bastard. I am only 5' 11.5" (6' with shoes )
Gotta have that half in there. Dont feel bad, Im the same height. BUT THE BEST PART IS my father and brother...and cousins.... and well all the men except my oldest brother and me are well in the 6 foot range. Hell my tall bro is 6ft 7 inches. And hes built like a friggin brick gak house
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