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Ws B S T W I A Ld Sv
-7 - 5 -8 6 - 4 - 6- 5 10 2+/4+*
Wargear
Armor of one thousand evils: One thousand mutations of chaos are incorparated in this armour.The king benefits from a 2+ armor save and +2 strength.
The Sword of the Maelstrom: The Maelstrom has gifted this sword to the king. Any victim that suffers a wound from this sword is killed outright. Instead of using a shooting attack, the king may choose to use the power of his sword as a throwing weapon. See bottom of page.
Special Rules
Eternal Warrior, Psyker, Monstrous Creature, fearless
Experiences of insanity: The king has been through many gods gathering the skills of the cult. In result of this the king counts as having all marks of chaos. He may still use Psychic Powers. He also gains a re-roll to hit and wound.
Mark of the psyker: The Daemon King may use Bolt of Change, Lash of Submission or Nurles Rot in a turn. He may use two of these powers.
Sword of the Maelstrom
S AP Range
8 3 18 inch , Assault 1 blast


Comments please

Should he be more or less points?



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hello?

He looks pretty OP

I think he is underpriced personally maybe make it 300? my 2 pence

He's pretty similar to Abbaddon, so I'll compare him to this Daemon King.

Their WS is the same.
Their BS is the same.
Their Strength is the same.
The Daemon King's Toughness is 6, while Abbaddon's is only 4(5).
Their Wounds are the same.
Their Initiative is the same.
The Daemon King has one more attack, but Abbaddon receives +1d6 attacks, although he has a 1/6 chance of having 0 attacks.
Their Leadership scores are the same.
Their Saving Throws are the same.

They both have Eternal Warrior and Fearless.

The Daemon King is a Monstrous Creature, and a Psyker.
The Daemon King kills models outright (Instant Death?)
Abbaddon can re-roll failed rolls to wound, the Daemon King can re-roll failed rolls to hit AND wound.
The Daemon King can use Lash of Submission, Mark of Tzeentch and Nurgle's Rot, and two of them per turn.
The Daemon King can also use an 18" range, small blast Battlecannon.

I'd say the Daemon King should probably be about 325-350 points. It would be a lot more than this, by virtue of his godly stats, except that he is a Monstrous Creature, and does not have Wings.

He can't be transported, he doesn't have Deep Strike/Scouts/Infiltrate, and his move is only 6". He's only slightly more survivable than Abbaddon walking alone, and he'll never even reach combat, so it would be unfair to charge any more for him.

I think his weapon is a bit overpowered. All wounds kill outright? Just a bit OTT, it should simply be either rending or cause Instant Death, not killing outright. Another option is "Any rolls to wound of 6 grant an extra attack"

Don't the marks improve his stats even more ?

That might be a bit much , but could still let him take the shooting attacks

the +2 strength is a bit much for the armor to give.
The outright killing is op could give soul devour so they have to make a leadership test or die.

maybe make the weapon master crafted and poisonous wounding on 4+

at this point he would still be better then most greater daemons so 310 -340

with out the changes at least 350.

350 pts its too expensive 325/300 coz hes way worse than the nightbringer so 25pts off... nah so hes 325 pts.


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And i rlly wander if you rlly need to take him coz out of the 29 games ive played ive won all of them


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And i dont have abbadon just a DP and like 5 sorcerers all with lash