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So what units in the HE list can take on daemons, some people here like to play them and after watching them table a WoC I wanted to try to not let that happen. BTW the group usually plays 1999 games, so only 1 squad of flamers, but 2 squads of flesh hounds, some harpies, slaneesh calvary, leadership banner with slaneesh, horror core etc. I was thinking that possibly a low magic army with some DPs (yeah immune to fire), Swordmasters and maybe even SElves could actually do something because high strength does not as as much of a bonus as it does against other armies. Probably go with medium low magic and try to get a spell+drain magic off so that his horrors can no longer cast, and then give some nobles fire armor so i can distribute some of the flamer shots on him. I just dont know how to handle the flesh hounds. Any help? (also its 1999 so no greater daemons , but also no star dragons )

Against Daemons, you'll probably want Pheonix Guard. I'd hazard 2 units of 20 with Full Command.

Supporting them would be 2 units of Dragon Princes.

Oh yes, lots of shooting. And magic defense.

@ 1999 points.

Hero BSB with battle banner
2 level 2 mages 1 with staff of sorcery for +1 to dispel (now +2) and one with 2 dispel scrolls and silver wand for +1 spell.
2 units archers
1 unit dragon princes with immune to fear and terror banner, full command (BSB goes here)
2 units white lions with command and magical banners (if can fit the points)
2 bolt throwers and 1 eagle

White lions are the bast infantry as they have St 6, and great saves vs missiles and magic missiles.

Is there any reason that there is a second unit of archers as you only need one, also i think i can only take 1 of each rare choice (total of 2) in 1999.

Secondly as I do not have any white lions atm can i substitute some Phoenix guard in instead and not loose out too much. (that way i might only have to buy 1 regiment new)

I'd go with swordmasters. 2 S5 attacks with ASF is really nasty. Give them a wide frontage to get lots of attacks and go to town.

tiekwando wrote: Probably go with medium low magic and try to get a spell+drain magic off so that his horrors can no longer cast, and then give some nobles fire armor so i can distribute some of the flamer shots on him.

Do what now? I think you're getting your 40K and your WHFB shooting rules confused.

yep i am. stupid 40k creeping into my mind when i am trying to play fantasy.

[quote=Waaagh_GonadsWhite lions are the bast infantry as they have St 6, and great saves vs missiles and magic missiles.

lion pelt is +2 AS vs shooting

cypher wrote:lion pelt is +2 AS vs shooting

So is the pelt +1 armor and an additional +2 vs. shooting, where the SDC is +1 armor and an additional +1 vs shooting?

Kirbinator wrote:

cypher wrote:lion pelt is +2 AS vs shooting

So is the pelt +1 armor and an additional +2 vs. shooting, where the SDC is +1 armor and an additional +1 vs shooting?

No, it just adds +2 to the armor save against shooting. So WL's have a 5+ save against melee, and a 3+ against shooting.