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Livermore, Ca

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The rules state you must contact the nearest model of the skirmisher unit, so if Unit X wants to charge Unit A, where does it have to wheel to contact A? Does it have to center up on Model 1A (the maximun wheel possible)? Can it go straight and hit the unit wherever, Or can it just clip Unit A on model 1A with its left most X model, with a minmal wheel?

In the Ard Boyz yesterday, I was trying to avoid having my RBT being charged or overun into, by directing a charge from some incomming dragon ogres. I think he has to at least do a minimal wheel to clip Model 1A, but I wasn't sure. My opponent wanted to just charge forward (if he had his way he'd be contacting models 3A first, and I flat out refused to let him do that)

The arguement for centering up his unit on model 1A would be that he needs to maximize his frontage on my single model, then I maximize mine to his unit.

Thoughts?

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You must contact the nearest visible model of a skirmishing unit. This means you must wheel so you will contact the nearest skirmisher first.
   
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The only restriction on charging skirmishers is that you must contact the closest visible model. The when, where, and how much of any necessary wheel are left up to the charger. The charging unit's facing is also up to the charger - he can face any direction he wants. Once the charging unit makes contact, the skirmishers line up against the chargers.

There's no need to maximize the charger against the chargee, as the skirmishers maximize, anyway.

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[quote=Manfred von DrakkenThe when, where, and how much of any necessary wheel are left up to the charger. The charging unit's facing is also up to the charger - he can face any direction he wants. Once the charging unit makes contact, the skirmishers line up against the chargers.



Accoding to the FAQ, that statement is wrong.
   
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A ranked unit can wheel once during the charge. It is required to contact the closest visible model in the skirmishing unit it is charging, so, assuming your diagram is roughly to scale, it appears that 1A is the model unit XXXX needs to contact.

The charging unit can choose to wheel as much or as little as it wants as long as it fills the above requirement, thus allowing the charging unit MUCH more flexibility in determining their direction of pursuit/overrun than is the case against non-skirmishing units. That’s what Manfred was alluding to, though his actual statements were inaccurate. It does not have to center on said closest visible skirmisher. It can clip it at a funny angle if it wants and force the skirmishers to maximize on it at said funny angle. In the situation given, though, the player using the skirmishers has done a good job ensuring that the chargers will have to charge so as to line up facing off to the left, and cannot just go straight ahead or off to the right.

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Mannahnin wrote:In the situation given, though, the player using the skirmishers has done a good job ensuring that the chargers will have to charge so as to line up facing off to the left, and cannot just go straight ahead or off to the right.


I thought I was being clever with my skirmishers too :p It didn't really help the game much, I was within a hundred points from being massacred, it delayed the demise of my repeater bolt thrower for 1 more turn.
   
 
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