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Another fun evening 2 on 2 , 2k pts a side.

CSM / ORK v TAU / NECRON

Pitched Battle, Seize Ground 5 Objectives

Ended Turn 6 with a CSM / ORK victory 1 - 0

Yeah seems like a battle report but had alot of interesting things come up.

1)Firewarriors assaulted and surrounded my tank not to damage it but to surround all the access points being 'Ard Case Battlewagon. Inside the battlewagon was Thrak and 3 meganobz. Didn't run into this due to amazingly bad vehicle destruction table rolls, but if it was wrecked there was no room to disembark units inside destroyed?

2)Multi Level Assault - 3 Necron Destroyers were on a level 3" up my orks were 2 " away so 5" total with a Terrain test(we didnt look to see if a ladder counted as terrain test for movement) Was a 6 on a roll and was able to get a few orks in base to base as the others rolled in. In that shooting phase 2 of the 3 went down but didnt run away. During the assault can you stand on their bodies? The room on that second level was pretty small with all 3 up (could only fit 5 orks) would of been more if we could of stood on the possible WBB corpses. So re cap (2a) Climbing ladders a Terrain Test? (2b) WBB bodies block movement? During assault since they are their but not? (2c) You like Tacos?

3) Boarding Plank- It seems to read like Death or Glory without the death part. If used on a skimmer tank is a roll to hit still required of a 6? We laughed but I had to use a boarding platform on the front of the truck to reach so next question is there a side designated for planks?

4) Wraith Scarabs (i believe) when moving flat out have it written in their codex as a 3+ invlun save for moving ludicris speed but thats old edition rules its just 3+ cover with 5th Ed right?

5) C'tan blades from the Necron Army / Wargear that say ignore all saves includes invuln saves? In their codex it says yes dunno if this still holds true.

6) How is your week going?

Thanks for your time and opinions
-Cheers

1. If the vehicles access points were blocked he could emergency disembark anywhere 2" form the hull, if the vehicle was completely surrounded then yes, they are destroyed.

2. no idea at all

3. boarding plank attacks hit the rear armor, just like normal close-combat attacks (afaik)

4. if it is written in the codex as an invul save, its an invul save, if it just says you recieve the normal save bonus for moving flat out then it would be the cover save.

5. still true

6 decent, overtime at work to pay the government so they can pay the big companies, who in turn take money from me.

Demogerg wrote:1. If the vehicles access points were blocked he could emergency disembark anywhere 2" form the hull, if the vehicle was completely surrounded then yes, they are destroyed.

3. boarding plank attacks hit the rear armor, just like normal close-combat attacks (afaik)

4. if it is written in the codex as an invul save, its an invul save, if it just says you recieve the normal save bonus for moving flat out then it would be the cover save.

5. still true

This is all correct, apart from the silly colonial spellings

3. You ignore Downed necrons completely. You can "stand on them" just fine, and when they get up, they are placed into a legal position.
6) Meh, not good, not terrible. Tried to release a Spess Puppeh FAQ, got trolled to bits

:( Sorry to hear Gwar.

Thank you and Demogerg for the time and input. Tune in next week as our hapless group discovers more fun situations.

You "hit" normally using the boarding planks, so if the skimmer has moved over 6" then it would need a 6 to hit.

Remember that thsi is a change from 4th: skimmers use the normal "to hit" now, they dont have an auto "6's only" as they did in 4th.

6) not bad, waiting to hear back on 2 job interviews - unemployment for first tiem since uni sucks.

Frenzied Potato wrote:

2)Multi Level Assault - 3 Necron Destroyers were on a level 3" up my orks were 2 " away so 5" total with a Terrain test(we didnt look to see if a ladder counted as terrain test for movement) Was a 6 on a roll and was able to get a few orks in base to base as the others rolled in. In that shooting phase 2 of the 3 went down but didnt run away. During the assault can you stand on their bodies? The room on that second level was pretty small with all 3 up (could only fit 5 orks) would of been more if we could of stood on the possible WBB corpses. So re cap (2a) Climbing ladders a Terrain Test? (2b) WBB bodies block movement? During assault since they are their but not? (2c) You like Tacos?

2a: This is up to the players to determine while placing terrain. If not specified, it's probably most fair to count ladders as DT. 2b: Necron models awaiting WBB are ignored for all normal game purposes; When I played Necrons I would usually just move them out of the way when necessary. 2c: Tacos are awesome.

4) Wraith Scarabs (i believe) when moving flat out have it written in their codex as a 3+ invlun save for moving ludicris speed but thats old edition rules its just 3+ cover with 5th Ed right?

In 5th it is a coversave. Note that Wraiths and Scarabs are different units, and that Scarabs get +1 to their cover saves due to the Small Targets rules in the codex. Yes, this means that Scarabs get a 2+ coversave when turbo boosting (and yes they can TB).

nosferatu1001 wrote:You "hit" normally using the boarding planks, so if the skimmer has moved over 6" then it would need a 6 to hit.

Remember that thsi is a change from 4th: skimmers use the normal "to hit" now, they dont have an auto "6's only" as they did in 4th.

6) not bad, waiting to hear back on 2 job interviews - unemployment for first tiem since uni sucks.

I know the process all too well best of luck on your results. Thanks for the hand My tau buddy will like the result.

Lordhat wrote:

Frenzied Potato wrote:

2)Multi Level Assault - 3 Necron Destroyers were on a level 3" up my orks were 2 " away so 5" total with a Terrain test(we didnt look to see if a ladder counted as terrain test for movement) Was a 6 on a roll and was able to get a few orks in base to base as the others rolled in. In that shooting phase 2 of the 3 went down but didnt run away. During the assault can you stand on their bodies? The room on that second level was pretty small with all 3 up (could only fit 5 orks) would of been more if we could of stood on the possible WBB corpses. So re cap (2a) Climbing ladders a Terrain Test? (2b) WBB bodies block movement? During assault since they are their but not? (2c) You like Tacos?

2a: This is up to the players to determine while placing terrain. If not specified, it's probably most fair to count ladders as DT. 2b: Necron models awaiting WBB are ignored for all normal game purposes; When I played Necrons I would usually just move them out of the way when necessary. 2c: Tacos are awesome.

4) Wraith Scarabs (i believe) when moving flat out have it written in their codex as a 3+ invlun save for moving ludicris speed but thats old edition rules its just 3+ cover with 5th Ed right?

In 5th it is a coversave. Note that Wraiths and Scarabs are different units, and that Scarabs get +1 to their cover saves due to the Small Targets rules in the codex. Yes, this means that Scarabs get a 2+ coversave when turbo boosting (and yes they can TB).

Ah again thank you all for your time and continous input. Very great help, love this community.

Frenzied - cheers for the thoughts

It makes monoliths slightly easier to take down now - at worst a 4+ to hit in CC in stead of the 6+ they used to get

nosferatu1001 wrote:You "hit" normally using the boarding planks, so if the skimmer has moved over 6" then it would need a 6 to hit.

Remember that this is a change from 4th: skimmers use the normal "to hit" now, they dont have an auto "6's only" as they did in 4th.

This.

As far as "is there a side [of the trukk] designated for planks" the rule doesn't specify:

"A boarding plank allows a single embarked Ork to make its close combat attacks against an enemy vehicle within 2" ... " Codex: Orks p. 93

This could mean within 2" of the plank or within 2" of the vehicle equipped with the plank. Following WYSIWYG principles, I'd probably interpret it as 2" from the side of the trukk the plank is modeled on. But I'm certainly open to argument on that one.

-GK