Determing AV Facings?

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**Gornall**

How do you physically determine what AV you're shooting into? The diagram in the BRB seems pretty clear that you divide the target corner-to-corner and that determines front vs side vs rear. However, I was recently told that the correct way is to use 90 degree arcs from the center of the tank (basically assuming the tank is a perfect square). This seems a little iffy, as it doesn't match the diagram in the book and would give a major advantage to tanks like Chimeras with longer sides. I'm used to doing the corner-to-corner measurment, but if I've been doing it wrong I'd like to know.

**Horst**

the correct way is corner to corner. when in doubt, follow the rulebook.

**Gwar!**

Correct way is to use common sense it would seem.

The "Corner to Corner" method breaks down for Eldar Tanks

**paidinfull**

True,
Because having side armor 12 and front armor 12 on Eldar tanks is too confusing.

**Che-Vito**

paidinfull wrote:True,
Because having side armor 12 and front armor 12 on Eldar tanks is too confusing.

Tau. Enough said.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Tau tank footprint is basically a rectangle, front, sides and back.

**Che-Vito**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Tau tank footprint is basically a rectangle, front, sides and back.

True, but it is more complex than Imperial tanks...

**rogueeyes**

Yes but you can split it into 4 regions with 2 pieces of paper. It's ususally obvious unless you are directly on a corner - which is a problem all the time anyways.

**Gornall**

Gwar! wrote:Correct way is to use common sense it would seem.

The "Corner to Corner" method breaks down for Eldar Tanks

So what's this common sense you speak of?

I think I'm going to stick with corner-to-corner (of the footprint) as I can't find any justisification of the 90 degree arcs.

**KingCracker**

That would be the smart wya.
OR
Do what I do. Just assault the basterds. Front sides.... friggin antenna I dont care. They all go to the rear lol

**DogOfWar**

Gornall wrote:This seems a little iffy, as it doesn't match the diagram in the book and would give a major advantage to tanks like Chimeras with longer sides.

Nitpick

Chimeras are 12/10/10 so, since being longer reduces your front arc as well as your rear arc, it would actually gives them a disadvantage since you will more likely hit AV10 rather than the front AV12.

/Nitpick

DoW

**Webbe**

DogOfWar wrote:
Gornall wrote:This seems a little iffy, as it doesn't match the diagram in the book and would give a major advantage to tanks like Chimeras with longer sides.
Nitpick

Chimeras are 12/10/10 so, since being longer reduces your front arc as well as your rear arc, it would actually gives them a disadvantage since you will more likely hit AV10 rather than the front AV12.

/Nitpick

DoW

That's what he said. 90 degree arcs would be an advantage to Chimeras.
Personally I prefer the method of making an as small as possible imaginary rectangle that fit the whole hull of the vehicle and then use the corner to corner method on that.

**Matt1785**

If you think about it, all tanks have larger side armor regions then front or back, that just makes sense since vehicles are long. From range, it's fairly simple to only expose frong armor, the problem really only comes into play when you get closer.

But yes, I always go corner to corner and then use the X, that's the way the rulebook does it. Had a guy at the LGS that used to say, 'I can see the side so I hit side' Haha, not the right way. But yeah, use the X and you should be fine. And nice diagram above by the way.

**Bascilica**

I use a folded up 10 inch paper circle to work out angles. It works a treat. It's also a good substitute for when the 10inch blast is too far away.