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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker






Ive recently just started playing again after a very long time and have lost touch with some of the rules.
My army consists of:

HQ
Eldrad Ulthran
2 warlocks
PL Muagan Ra

Elites
Wraithguards (3 units)
Harlequin troupe (8 units; includes shadowseer, death jester and troupe leader)

Troops
Rangers (5 units)

Heavy support
Dark Reaper (4 units)

My question really is whether i can have the PL accompany the Harlie into a battle rather than leave him with his aspect squad? Which would be best? The aspets would benefit from the fearless rule, yet would waste muagan ra's close combat abilities.

And wraithguards accompanied by the warlocks and eldrad, would this be a potent combination or a simple waste of points?

im opting for a squad of scorpions or hawks with their PL or an autarch, but still debating as the harlies already are an excellent close combat unit.

any ideas or suggestions? it sucks no one in this country plays the eldars, let alone WH 40K. sad really

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The stars in the sky

And swallows the star-fire

We hide amongst the night
When light is gone

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"The weak will always be led by the strong. Where the strong see purpose and act, the weak follow; where the strong cry out against fate, the weak bow their heads and succumb. There are many who are weak; and many are their temptations. Despise the weak for they shall flock to the call of the Daemon and the Renegade. Pity them not and scorn their cries of innocence - it is better that one hundred innocently fall before the wrath of the Emperor than one kneels before the Daemon."  
   
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Maugan Ra is primarily a shooting character anyways, due to his lack of an invulnerable save.

However, he does work well with harlequins because you can put bolt-gun wounds and such onto him to increase the chance that more harlequins will survive enemy action.

Hawks and Scorpions both are pretty poor units.

If you purchase a warlock squad they cannot accompany the wraithguard squadrons, but you are capable of purchasing warlocks for those squadrons themselves.

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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker






what would you reckon i should do with eldrad?

if i were to loose one of the warlocks, and have eldrad accompany the wraithguards and add another squad say a storm guardian squad (i like the their close combat weapons over the regular guardians) accompanied with the warlock.

does anyone know if the strom guardian box set on the games workshop site a plastic set of figures or a metal set. i preffer metal figures over plastic, but thats just me personally.

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"We are the wolf that stalks
The stars in the sky

And swallows the star-fire

We hide amongst the night
When light is gone

The Light is within us

We run the ruin of Fire
In the darkness

Foes burn in our passing "



"The weak will always be led by the strong. Where the strong see purpose and act, the weak follow; where the strong cry out against fate, the weak bow their heads and succumb. There are many who are weak; and many are their temptations. Despise the weak for they shall flock to the call of the Daemon and the Renegade. Pity them not and scorn their cries of innocence - it is better that one hundred innocently fall before the wrath of the Emperor than one kneels before the Daemon."  
   
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Newcastle, OZ

Storm guardians are plastic guardians with metal heads and arms (weapons are molded into hands).

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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.

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Neenah, Wisconsin

Avalon wrote:Ive recently just started playing again after a very long time and have lost touch with some of the rules.
My army consists of:

HQ
Eldrad Ulthran
2 warlocks
PL Muagan Ra


That's a lot of points in HQ for a small force. In addition you can't field the warlocks this way. A warlock unit has a minimum size of 3 models, the farseer doesn't count toward that total. Either get 1 more warlock or use one to add to your wraithguard unit, and the other to add to a guardian unit (you need a second troops choice anyway).


Elites
Wraithguards (3 units)
Harlequin troupe (8 units; includes shadowseer, death jester and troupe leader)


3 Wraithguard aren't bad for this size game, a unit of 5 might be better though. Maugan Ra can join the harlequins, but remember they lose some of their abilities if he does (flip belts and hit and run IIRC)


Troops
Rangers (5 units)


You need a second troops choice. Since you are all on foot Storm Guardians probably won't do much other than die. They are also one of the worst boxes in GW's lineup. Minimum squad size is 10 and you get 8 in a box with only 6 SP/CCW arms and 1 of each special weapon (a bad choice of mix and match). You'd need 2 boxes to make a playable unit.

Instead I'd get a box of regular guardians and add your 2nd warlock to them.


Heavy support
Dark Reaper (4 units)

My question really is whether i can have the PL accompany the Harlie into a battle rather than leave him with his aspect squad? Which would be best? The aspets would benefit from the fearless rule, yet would waste muagan ra's close combat abilities.

And wraithguards accompanied by the warlocks and eldrad, would this be a potent combination or a simple waste of points?

im opting for a squad of scorpions or hawks with their PL or an autarch, but still debating as the harlies already are an excellent close combat unit.

any ideas or suggestions? it sucks no one in this country plays the eldars, let alone WH 40K. sad really


Looking at next purchases, you need more troops. The elites are flashy, but you have two units already, I'd look at Dire Avengers or Jet Bikes. Both are quite useful, probably more useful than the swooping hawks.


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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker






eldrad ulthran, him on his own, as an independent character can be used to cast his charms on the existing units am i correct?
how beneficial is over say normal far seers and as a single unit over joining him with a unit of wraith guards.

this im debating over keeping eldrad as a single unit, and joining the wraith guards with a warlock and adding to the army a squad of dire avengers or a squad of jet bikes. unfortunately im very fond of the metal figures so im slightly reluctant to the idea of the guardian and dire avenger box sets which are plastic.

the avenger in absence of a warlock, i was thinking bout adding their PL as a leader. thoughts?


"We are the wolf that stalks
The stars in the sky

And swallows the star-fire

We hide amongst the night
When light is gone

The Light is within us

We run the ruin of Fire
In the darkness

Foes burn in our passing "



"The weak will always be led by the strong. Where the strong see purpose and act, the weak follow; where the strong cry out against fate, the weak bow their heads and succumb. There are many who are weak; and many are their temptations. Despise the weak for they shall flock to the call of the Daemon and the Renegade. Pity them not and scorn their cries of innocence - it is better that one hundred innocently fall before the wrath of the Emperor than one kneels before the Daemon."  
   
 
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