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What is the best alternitive ww2 game or rules system around? what are the best models to represent various factions and where can i get them?
All infomation warmly recieved....

Secrets of the Third Reich.

cool are there any others, or miniture groups that do good models? have heard GW Westwind and at-43 mentioned

Westwind Miniatures is a good one, there's Darkson Designs and that's pretty much all I know of off the top of my head.

Westwind, mind, their game system also incorporates standard WWII tech alongside the wacky and occult. They make models for most of it too.

Gear Krieg using Battlefield Evolution rules

Westwind produces the miniatures for Secerets of the Thrid Reich.

Yeah they are a good company, I like their mech paras armour but am still shopping around....

Theres one out there called AE WW2.

They have quite a few different models, and seem to me more of a skirmish game then large scale table game.

http://www.darksondesigns.com/aeww2.html

cool like the tumbleweed tank al ot