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Starting with the BRB pg 67. Dedicated Transports.
Basically the book has, After game begins other unit can be added. Troops can be added until capacity.
The last time I asked the questions, I was told the older codex overrides the (new)BRB.
I see the DH codex has the limited use. Can anyone find the Dedicated transport limitations in the WH codex?
I don't have the Ultramarine or SW codex to see if the limitations are there.

It really bugs me when GW puts out books that have rules, That don't apply.
If I wrote the BRB, I would read the codex's and see what rules should be deleted.
(Yes, I am overusing the symbols.)

What are you talking about?

Are you talking about how Older codexes cannot use dedicated Transports to carry ANY other unit while modern codexes allow any unit to ride in them?

Seriously... I can't make out any of that...

Is there a rules question in here?

OK, I think you are asking if the SW codex has a "only the unit they are bought for" restriction. Is that correct?
No, they do not.

Yeah, I can not find a question out of any of that.

im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

I don't know what you're asking but I'll hazard a guess.

A dedicated transport may carry a different unit in later game turns, but may not start with them embarked.

A transport may never have more than one unit in it, excluding combat squads that have yet to deploy from drop pods, as far as I know.

TheFirstBorn wrote:im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

Actually, you can. the Lord Commisar is an Independent Character, so can join the unit inside the transport.
What you cannot do is put Two Heavy Weapon Squads in a single Chimera (6+6).

TheFirstBorn wrote:im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

Yes, if the IC Joined the squad before embarking, if he did not, then no.

TheFirstBorn wrote:im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

Nope. Just have them waiting to pop in. Simple as that.

Gwar! wrote:

TheFirstBorn wrote:im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

Actually, you can. the Lord Commisar is an Independent Character, so can join the unit inside the transport.
What you cannot do is put Two Heavy Weapon Squads in a single Chimera (6+6).

Taken to quoting yourself now?

DH Codex transports can only transport the unit they were bought for, because that's what the codex says to do (on page 30). The first edition of the WH Codex had the same restriction, but the later edition removed it. So this doesn't apply to the WH transports any longer.

The BRB can't automatically change or override what the Codex says (unless it specifically says it does), or nothing any Codex has would ever apply. So, sadly, or interestingly (if you want a positive spin), DH Codex purchased transports remain super dedicated. Ally in a IG unit with a transport option, if you must have this flexibility.

InquisitorFabius wrote:

TheFirstBorn wrote:im guessing with my guard, i couldnt have a lord commisar and a vet squad in 1 chimera?

Yes, if the IC Joined the squad before embarking, if he did not, then no.

Or he can just get in and join them when he embarks. Page 67, ICs embarking and disembarking....................

Why do the old codex cancel rules in the new BRB?

example: BRB pg 67. Dedicated Transports.
BRB states " After game begins Other Unit can board the vehicle. Troops can be added until capacity"

ie. A rhino w/5troops can pick up 5 more troops. After the game starts, in turn 1.

Most codex have "only troops that paid the points can be transported in the vehicle."

resinmann wrote: Why do the old codex cancel rules in the new BRB?

It's not a question of old codex canceling new rulebook, so much as the normal process of more specific rule over-riding less specific.

The rulebook says that dedicated transports follow certain rules.
Certain codexes impose extra rules specifically on dedicated transports in that codex.

BRB states " After game begins Other Unit can board the vehicle. Troops can be added until capacity"

It actually doesn't. It states that after the game begins the transport may carry any friendly unit, subject to capacity. Which is slightly different.

If you're asking if that means the transport can carry more than one unit at a time (to be honest, it's still rather unclear just what you are asking) then the Transport Capacity section on page 66 states that a transport vehicle can only carry a single unit. So that would be a 'no'...

Most codex have "only troops that paid the points can be transported in the vehicle."

Most don't. Just a couple of the older ones.

resinman, why don't you just tell us what you want to do, and we'll tell you whether you can do it or not. If it's two units (other than by attaching ICs) in the same transport, the answer is no.

In regards to older codices and their restrictions on dedicated transports, please note that GW has also specifically addressed this in the main rulebook FAQ from March:

Q. My Imperial Guard or Black Templar Codex
says that dedicated transports can only be used
by the unit they’ve been bought for. Is that
overruled by the new way dedicated transports
work in 5th Edition?
A. No, if a Codex clearly says that dedicated
transports can only be used during the game by
the unit that bought them, that overrules the
general rule in the rulebook, as normal.
Obviously some armies are stricter than others
about transport regulations!

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2030054_40k_Rulebook_March_2009.pdf