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Well finally decided on my list I think, I've decided
to drop the chariots purely because they never seem to pull there wieght at all instead opted for some shadow warriors give me 2 scouting units to kill of war machines and go Mage hunting and such anyway what you guys think ??

High elf prince: star dragon, star lance, vambraces of defence, dragon
armor, shield: 627pts

Dragon Mage: level 2, 2 dispel scrolls, silver wand: 435pts

10 Archers: 110pts
10 Archers: 110pts

5 Dragon Princes: 150pts
5 Dragon Princes: 150pts
5 Dragon Princes: 150pts

5 Shadow Warriors: 80pts
5 Shadow Warriors: 80pts

Bolt Thrower: 100pts

total 1992pts

I'm still debating having one unit of shadow warriors and having a chariot aswell thoughts on this?

In my opinion, Dragon Mages are overpriced. I also think Eagles do a better job of march-blocking / warmachine hunting then the Shadow Warriors do (and they're cheaper and can re-direct as well).

As you probably mean the UKGT, you should expect a lot of Daemons of Chaos / Dark Elves / Vampire Counts. So you know the following things about these armies:

-All three can bring a lot of PD, so you are going to need some solid magic defense.
-Two out of three have only Unbreakable units, so cavalry (who usually rely on breaking the opponent on the charge) might not be a very good idea.
-All of them will (almost certainly) field Monsters (War Hydra, Black Dragon, Greater Daemons, Vargulf), so bringing multiple Bolt Throwers could be a good idea. This has the added advantage of being able to deal with Lizardmen Stegadon armies as well.

So, I would advise you to take more magic defense (Mage with Annulian Crystal and Mage with 2x Dispel Scroll or something), re-consider the Dragon Princes (they will have a though time against Daemons and VC, although their Dragon Armour is very annoying to a Tzeentch army) and think about adding some more Repeater Bolt Throwers.

Hope my advise is useful.

Yeah I understand where your coming from I've played alot of practice games against daemons and vcs and found my speed counters all the magic quite well. It may seem odd but it works surprisingly well and all the dragon armour is very useful agaisnt flamers abd there ilk.

I was thinking shadow warriors purely for thier hatred and scouting causing some small amount of havoc in the enemies deployment to allow the dragons and princes time to get into position for charges etc.

In regards to the Mage I'm not taking him for the Mage I'm takingnhim for te extra dragon though painting time abd such may force me to abandon the second dragon we will a
see.

Thanks for your input I'll definately have alook at things from your perspective.

That extra dragon has the hitting power of 2 Dragon Princes on the charge, yet costs 7 times as much. Also, your opponent will probably swing at the Dragon Mage as soon as he is in combat, who isn't likely to survive at T3 W2.
The Dragon Mage is illegal as well, he has too many points spent on Magic Items (60 where 50 is allowed).

Shadow Warriors shouldn't be in combat, so their Hatred is wasted. Scouting is nice, but Great Eagles march block just as easily and are better Warmachine hunters then Shadow Warriors are. Besides that, Great Eagles can also redirect. They just don't have a Longbow like the Shadow Warriors, but they cost less as well. So if you aren't taking the Shadow Warriors for their damage dealing capability (which you shouldn't), you would be better of with a Great Eagle (or two).

@Airmaniac - HE Dispel Scrolls only cost 20 a pop.

My biggest concern with the list are the Shadow Warriors - they just come off as the weakest link in the list. Personally, I'd prefer a second RBT and an eagle, though I can see the appeal of the scouting.

Second bolt thrower and an eagle it is then yay even less to paint.

I can understand what your saying about the sun dragon but it does also cause terror and is T6 giving it alot more staying power than a unit of princes and the Mage really only is there to use his DS and then cast flaming sword and get stuck in.

Prehaps they are the weak link though I don't want to give away 160 easy victory points now do I lol.

If you have the time to play more practise games, I'd really advise you to play some without the Dragon Mage as well. As is, you can't really use him in combat the first couple of turns, as you need him to survive for the Dispel Scrolls.

Think of it like this:

Mage (Annulian Crystal)
Mage (2x Dispel Scroll)
Repeater Bolt Thrower
Great Eagle (or 55 points of other stuff)

OR

Dragon Mage (2x Dispel Scroll, Silver Wand)


The first option brings more magic defense (+1 to dispel, an extra dispel dice and the Annulian Crystal), and the Repeater Bolt Thrower is arguably better against all those Monsters out there (War Hydras, Dragons, Greater Daemons, Stegadons, Vargulfs, Treemen) then the Dragon Mage is. Besides that, the Repeater Bolt Thrower is also great against Heavy Cavalry.

The second option brings Terror, which isn't all that valuable when most units are Immune to Psychology (Daemons of Chaos, Vampire Counts) or Terror causers themselves (War Hydra, Black Dragon, Stegadon).