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2009/10/18 06:31:02
Subject: think about this
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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I think more people should really take this to heart
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Balance, playtesting - a casual gamer craves not these things!" - Yoda, a casual gamer.
Three things matter in marksmanship -
location, location, locationMagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
Eric
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2009/10/18 06:36:04
Subject: Re:think about this
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
About to eat your Avatar...
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Taken...
BTW... this is officially Sebter's thread, and I will stand by his opinion in these circumstances. Proceed Sebbie.
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2009/10/18 06:58:12
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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I almost feel bad replying now.
Anyway, this will be short.
Practice is far less important than belief. Said US Senator need not belief Ye Olde Earthe is round so long as he does not attempt to enforce his beliefs upon the larger populace. Sorry scientists, you don't really matter that much.
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2009/10/18 07:02:01
Subject: think about this
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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I was talking about the comic before the last panel.
Who cares what other people think if you know youre right that's enough
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Balance, playtesting - a casual gamer craves not these things!" - Yoda, a casual gamer.
Three things matter in marksmanship -
location, location, locationMagickalMemories wrote:How about making another fist?
One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
Make a third, and it can be, "Da Uvver Uvver Fist uv Mork"
Eric
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2009/10/18 07:05:44
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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So long as you know what it is to know, sure. But that mess is just as complicated as the contradiction implies.
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2009/10/18 07:12:12
Subject: Re:think about this
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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I'm not going to comment on this, I'm just gonna sit back, chew on some popcorn and smile.
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2009/10/18 07:13:40
Subject: Re:think about this
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2009/10/18 07:21:06
Subject: think about this
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Enter Wrex, leave satisfied. I would really like to hear Sebster's full perspective on this one though.
dogma wrote:So long as you know what it is to know, sure. But that mess is just as complicated as the contradiction implies.
But what is it to know? Do I really know that I am more than I think that I am? Or am I less than others consider me to be? Can my opinions hold their own ground... like minions and stuff.
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2009/10/18 07:26:14
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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That's why the statement was a contradiction. The only answer is an aesthetic one. Unless we're gonna go into neuroscience, anyway.
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2009/10/18 07:28:10
Subject: think about this
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
About to eat your Avatar...
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dogma wrote:That's why the statement was a contradiction. The only answer is an aesthetic one. Unless we're gonna go into neuroscience, anyway.
Yep, everybody hop on board, and hold on for dear life. This brain... is going to kick your reality loving ass.  If reincarnation was a business, and you got to go into a store to cash your karma chips in; the salesmen would pitch the human experience in this exact way... at least, I would. 
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2009/10/18 07:30:28
Subject: Re:think about this
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Oberleutnant
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Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
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Digitus Impudicus! 
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2009/10/18 07:40:28
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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And then came the once and future (mostly future) devil that is neuroscience.
What happens to 'free will' when we can predict the direction of that will?
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2009/10/18 07:42:27
Subject: think about this
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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We kill the witches.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/10/18 07:43:53
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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Well, duh.
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2009/10/18 07:54:32
Subject: think about this
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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We are missing the point here though... how will we decide who the witches are?
I for one vote for... wait, does this make me the witch? DAMMIT!!!
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2009/10/18 08:02:25
Subject: think about this
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
United States
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The point is ambiguous. Ergo ambiguity makes the point, or some such.
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2009/10/18 08:06:31
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Mick A wrote:Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
First QFT ever.
This is exactly the way I see it as well.
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2009/10/18 09:41:25
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Charging Wild Rider
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Mick A wrote:Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
Thats stupid everyone should listen to me cause i'm right there wrong.
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2009/10/18 10:19:00
Subject: Re:think about this
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Mick A wrote:Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
How would you classify "forcing those beliefs on others"? Many would classify missionaries and evangelists as "forcing" said beliefs, but that is a basic tenet of their faith. Or what about using the various forms of media for spouting your beliefs? Many more would classify that as the same. Beliefs will contradict each other, and being able to share them is an essential part of basic human liberty...
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How is it they live in such harmony - the billions of stars - when most men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about someone they know.
- St. Thomas Aquinas
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"The Eldar get no attention because the average male does not like confetti blasters, shimmer shields or sparkle lasers."
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2009/10/18 10:24:19
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Kragura wrote:Mick A wrote:Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
Thats stupid everyone should listen to me cause i'm right there wrong.
Irony 
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2009/10/19 00:29:08
Subject: think about this
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Fixture of Dakka
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Personally I don't like 'it's true for ME' as a statement. It's too woolly. There is such a thing as 'the truth' - it's not subjective. I could BELIEVE that I'm made of jam and paperclips - but that's not the literal truth.
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I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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2009/10/19 06:27:11
Subject: Re:think about this
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Mick A wrote:Everyone should have the right to believe what they want as long as they don't try to force their beliefs onto others...
Mick
In the xkcd strip that's the same argument the professor is using. The point of the comic is that it's actually a lot more complicated than that, because the people with these beliefs are often in position to decide policy that affects us all.
The thing is that we're all in this together, lots of decisions are made by individuals or groups that affect us all. We vote in government representatives, and these government representatives decide policy. Unfortunately the idea of not forcing beliefs onto others isn't viable.
Now, exactly what we do from here is pretty tricky, we do, indeed, have a bit of a situation.
You know, xkcd is really good. It probably isn't as consistantly funny as some other strips, but it addresses issues in really interesting ways.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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