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Ok, this was the situation. My Chaos Drednaught with a plasma cannon rolled a one for sainity, and shot the cannon at the possesed squad right next to him. It ended up scattering behind him, and killing him.
So the question is: is it possible to scatter behind the firerer of the weapon?

Although, regardles, I think it was pretty damn funny when my awesome drednaught blew itself up on the first turn.

Yes, it is indeed possible to scatter behind.

It's called "don't fire just in front" - especially funny with Vindicators....

Thank you for the response, but I realized something else. What armor value do you use for a vehicle if a blast marker/templete lands directly on top of it?

All too possible.


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Hits on the top from blast/template weapons are hitting the AV from the side facing the firer. In the case of your dreadnought, front armor.

Barrage weapons hit side armor.

Non-barrage you use the armour facing the firer (not very helpful in this circumstance)
Barrage you use the side armour value to represent the top armour.

Ahhh, thank you for the answered questions. Now I can truely hate the sight of a .

Scott-S6 wrote:Non-barrage you use the armour facing the firer (not very helpful in this circumstance)
Barrage you use the side armour value to represent the top armour.

Actually, non-barrage that has the hole off the hull hit's whatever facing the blast hits, so if it scattered behind him, it would be S3 against Rear Armour.

As Gwar says, all blast weapons that scatter so the center hole isn't over the vehicle use half strength rounding down against the armour value of the side closest to the center of the blast marker.

As such, assuming the marker scattered so the center hole was beyond the dreadnought, it would have been S3 and thus unable to even glance.

Also, if the hole ended up on top of the dreadnought it would not necessarily be against the front armour, it would be against the facing belonging to the quadrant that the tip of the weapon's barrel is in, given the dreadnought's broad frame I doubt any weapon would have it's tip in the side quadrant, only the missile launcher would maybe be there and frag missiles aren't exactly a threat, but I just thought I would mention it because if, for example a leman russ' plasma cannon sponsons scattered back on to it, they would hit the side armour, rather than the front armour.

Ahhh, so most likely I didn't need to use the rear armor. Meh, I rolled a Six to penentrate, anyway.

It's technically not the tip of the barrel that matters. You measure from the gun mount. This is to stop people from making 24'' long gun barrels and shooting across the table with flamers while staying out of range of meltaguns.

BRB p56, "Vehicles & Measuring Distances"

Luckily, it doesn't matter whether the plasma cannon counts as firing from the dread's front or side arc since the armor value is the same.

Up next: Chaos tactics for placing blast markers to minimize casualties.

thebetter1 wrote:It's technically not the tip of the barrel that matters. You measure from the gun mount. This is to stop people from making 24'' long gun barrels and shooting across the table with flamers while staying out of range of meltaguns.

Not actually true this edition. You might want to check the page that Ridcully mentioned.