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Situation: a piece of cover is close to the board edge and inside of it are some Guard and Tau hiding. My ally's Legion of the Damned deep struck behind the cover and the next turn a Leman Russ tank shocked them. Death or Glory! failed and the Legion had to move out of the way of the tank. Problem was, the area between the Tau lined up in the cover and the board edge was barely wide enough for the tank, and on the opposite side of the Russ' original position was a Shas'el and a imperial guard sentinel. The Legion couldn't move anywhere to make room for the Russ without A) touching the board edge or B) getting within 1" of the Tau or C) getting "pushed" by the tank into Shas'el and the sentinel.

What happens when a Fearless unit is Tank Shocked and can't move anywhere? They don't count as falling back because they're fearless and can't fall back, so what happens to them?

They move as little as needed to be in a legal position.

Also, you can touch the board edge just fine.

HolyCause wrote:Situation: a piece of cover is close to the board edge and inside of it are some Guard and Tau hiding. My ally's Legion of the Damned deep struck behind the cover and the next turn a Leman Russ tank shocked them. Death or Glory! failed and the Legion had to move out of the way of the tank. Problem was, the area between the Tau lined up in the cover and the board edge was barely wide enough for the tank, and on the opposite side of the Russ' original position was a Shas'el and a imperial guard sentinel. The Legion couldn't move anywhere to make room for the Russ without A) touching the board edge or B) getting within 1" of the Tau or C) getting "pushed" by the tank into Shas'el and the sentinel.

What happens when a Fearless unit is Tank Shocked and can't move anywhere? They don't count as falling back because they're fearless and can't fall back, so what happens to them?

Sounds interesting. If the tank stayed where the old unit was, I imagine the unit would just have to move the minimum distance that is legally allowed. If it cannot...the only things I could say are either.

1) possibly subject to the No Retreat! rulle
2) discuss with opponent (what I would do.)

Like Gwar! says, there's no harmful consequence to touching the edge of the board or any rule prohibiting it. Moving over other intervening models besides the tank shocking tank would be covered in the "move the least amount to reach a valid position" clause.

Also, just to make sure, the fearless only has to move clear of the tank's final position. Since the tank had to have a path to come in, then that should have created a channel into which they could be moved. If the models end up getting moved "through" the tank into their new position, that is allowed by the rules, there's even a diagram in the rulebook showing tankshocked models moving through a tank.

Hang on a minute, I just re-read the bgb again, and the text "as though [the tank] wasn't there" and the following few lines seems to clarify - I was under the presumption that the unit couldn't end up behind the tank where it originally was because there was no room. There was space and that's where we did put them in the end.

ahem, my bad

edit: The unit wouldn't be touching the board edge, they would be "pushed off" since that fat tank took up literally space from the board edge right up to the Tau troops.

What diagram do you refer to, solkan? The one on page 68 (small one, don't have the hardcover here) indicates them falling back another direction, not "under" the tank.

Looking at that diagram on page 68 again, I'm blaming my statement on the diagram. Reading over the sequence described in the rules, that diagram is probably in error because it isn't showing what it says that it's showing--there should be no way for the tank to stop on the gretchin unit without causing the morale check when it touched the first row of gretchin, and instead it looks like the tank stopped on top of the unit. But in the diagram, it looks like some of those gretchin models moved through the tank during their fallback move.

As noted, the tank-shocked unit can go right "under" the tank. The models go to wherever is the closest legal place for them to stand.

If this conflicts with your sense of narrative and verisimilitude, remember that the rules all involve abstractions at one level or another. Imagine that there was a culvert or depression they ducked into.