Shotguns?

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**vodo40k**

Why are they str 4 in the space marine codex but only str 3 in the IG codex? They're the same weapon, but do space marines get better amo or just know how to make their shots count more?

**thebetter1**

I think it's because they have some kind of manstopper rounds, but I don't remember where I read this. In the last codex they were strength 3.

**Shas'O Dorian**

Space marines are stronger, hence they can handle a more powerful round easier then a regular human. That would allow them to use say an 8 gauge instead of a 12 gauge in an assault scenario.

**Steelmage99**

You guys are missing the most obvious and most correct answer;

Because the rules/codex tell you that it is thus!

Trying to apply logic, common sense and IRL physics to WH40K is just plain stupid.

**Kapitan Montag**

Space marines just don't do S3

**Gwar!**

Steelmage99 wrote:You guys are missing the most obvious and most correct answer;

Because the rules/codex tell you that it is thus!

Trying to apply logic, common sense and IRL physics to WH40K is just plain stupid.

QFT*9001

**Valkyrie**

In game terms, SM shotguns use "Manstopper" rounds which have a much heavier propellent charge, giving them the extra strength.

**The Defenestrator**

and also because if IG shotguns were S4 there would be absolutely no reason not to take them. As it is now, lasgun vs. shotgun is basically a wash, but 1 pt of str would seal the deal.

**Razerous**

IG cant afford Man Stopper™ rounds for their shotguns.

The fancy-pants astartes OTOH can afford gilded shotguns with built in compasses etc...

**Ridcully**

I believe they choose to throw the shotgun at the enemy rather than fire it. The recoil could kill a guardsman

**alexwars1**

Its because space marines get a special shotgun, made by the adeptus mechanicus, with holy ammunition. The Imperial Guard get a shotgun slapped together by joe-bob on a forge world, along with hessian sack armor and motorbike helmets.

**Little lord Fauntleroy**

Why you would ever take a shotgun for SM scouts is beyond me though.

**Gwar!**

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:Why you would ever take a shotgun for SM scouts is beyond me though.

So you can shoot and then assault.

In All Fairness, it's not meant to actually be taken. It's a Legacy Option, nothing more.

**Try Again Bragg**

Why are there three kinds of shotguns readily available to imperium soldiers. Standard guardsmen have their str3, marines have str4, and ogryns have str5, why.

I think the difference might be in rounds fired. A space marine can fire a shotgun and maintain accuracy much more effectivly then a guardsmen. A ogryn with the kind of strenght that puts space marines to shame can handle the recoil much more effectively and theirs has a three round burst setting.

**Bookwrack**

It's also a rippergun, not a shotgun.

**Dexterium**

The description for a rippergun mentions that it is in fact a shotgun.