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Im thinking about trying some oil based paints , so i was wondering

other than the slow dry time , do they ever dry? or will the oily surface push off
the acrylic paints that is applied later?

is enamel paint = oil paint?

Enamel paint is a particular type of oil paint.

Basically, it is glossy 'cos it has varnish in.

In my (limited) experience, acrylic paint won't stick to an undercoat of enamel, but I last tried it in about 1991, so...

LunaHound wrote:is enamel paint = oil paint?

Not exactly.

Enamels are oil-based, but when someone says 'oil paint' they're generally referring to the oils used for 2D painting.

Enamels dry to a hard finish. They're usually (but not always) glossy, although you can buy matte enamels as well.


Some oil paints can be used on miniatures... you see it a lot in Historicals, but not so much with SciFi and Fantasy stuff. I would guess that's something to do with it not being as durable for constant handling... SciFi and Fantasy miniatures tend to be more used for gaming, whereas a lot of historical stuff is purely for display.

No idea how oils set on miniatures though, as I've never tried it.

Are you talking about the oil paints commonly used on canvas? If so, I would recommend you first try using them on canvas so you can get a feel for how they work. Oils are a difficult medium to master. They can be used on models, but if you think using acrylics on models is hard just wait till you try oils.

Im not sure which oil paints , i just read on tank weathering tips that they use oil something ( and i would like to learn it )

From the Forge World Master Class book:

Oil Paint
A traditional form of paint used by artists. For model painting it is primarily used with white spirit to make washes. A characteristic of this type of wash is that it can be manipulated, removed ( with more white spirit) and blended because it takes a few hours to dry. It adds richness and depth to shading.

If that's what you're looking for, you want Winsor & Newton paints. If you also wish to not get the IA Masterclass book, there's also the "Osprey Masterclass: Airbrushing and Finishing Scale Models" by Brett Green which has a lot of the same things, but also focuses heavily on airbrushing techniques.

Im not sure which oil paints , i just read on tank weathering tips that they use oil something ( and i would like to learn it )

Article linky?

Ironhide wrote:

Im not sure which oil paints , i just read on tank weathering tips that they use oil something ( and i would like to learn it )

Article linky?

http://akaranseth.over-blog.com/pages/step-by-step-on-a-k-o-malcador-tank-in-the-ruins-of-vraks-1873528.html
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Ah! He seems to be using the oils more as a thick wash. The technique will work on tank models, but I'm not sure you will get the same results with say, a space marine. Tau Crisis suits might be a good recipient for this technique. I'm just not sure I would have the patience to wait for the oil paint to dry. And believe me, it will take awhile.

Here's another article that used this technique. http://ultrawerke.blogspot.com/2007/03/painting-and-weathering-tutorial-part-i.html

BTW, I liked how he used the hairspray as a cheap workable fixative.

Its so complicated

( no short cut with just brush + bottle of paint i guess lol )

Actually, this guys method works well for weathering vehicles, and some of the techniques could be used for minis.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2003/01/stuff_eng_tech_afv_weathering.htm