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Alright so i'm considering joining a halloween apocalypse game at my local GW store with my Nids but i've got 0 experience at playing apocalypse games so I dunno what works best for tyranids.

Can anyone give me the breakdown of which formations I should bring, what to use and all that.

I'm able to field just about every formation so if someone can break down the pros and cons of them i'd appreciate that as well.

I also have a question bout the Genestealer Infestation formation, it seems that the whole formation gains the Secret Deployment special rule that the Lictor has.

So does this mean the whole formation may also assault on the turn it arrives? Or is the Lictor the only one allowed to assault?

I ask because the lictor is given the ability to assault after deep striking within the secret deployment rule. However it specifically says the Lictor (but this is because Lictors are the ONLY units with this special rule in the codex) so is the ability to assault after deep striking something given by having secret deployment itself ? Or is this a lictor only rule?

Do you have any Bio Titans?

One suggestion is to form your army into 2 elements - One that can hunker down and contest / claim OBJ's in your area and one that takes the fight to the enemy.

Formations that support the first imperative:
Hive Mind Brood
Living Fortress
Endless Swarm
Kraken Tendril Swarm

Thay all give you solid units to contest OBJs with

The Second Imperative
Behemoth Crusher Brood
Subterranean Swarm
Genestealer Infestation
Mycetic Assault Swarm

All of these allow for special movement, the swarm requires a Trygon though.

I interpret the secret deployment as allowing the stealers to deploy in terrain as a lictor would only. Other formations specifically say if units can assault the turn they arrive - see Swarm... Because that is not specified I take it to mean they cant.

You'll need something to take on Titans/Banblades - I like the Crusher brood because of the Hierdoles and because of the fleet move on the Carnies.

I think the Mycetic Assault Swarm will be your bread and butter disruption force - max MC's here - but have another MC unit as an assault reserve ie the Crusher Brood.

I would go with the Kraken Tendril Swarm over the Endlass swarm if I had to choose soley due to the Strategic Redeployment strategem - this thing is a beauty.

Take more than one Brood lord if youre bringing the infestestion.

Well i sat down with army builder to make a couple builds of everything I could squeeze in with what I own and this is what i came up with:

Unlimited Pts - Tyranids Roster - Apocalypse [NOTE: There are no individual point costs noted]

Formation: Endless Swarm (195#, 2904 Pts)
1 Endless Swarm @ 2904 Pts
Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood
25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
25 Hormagaunts @ [400] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons
22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
22 Gaunt Brood @ [264] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Spinefists
32 Gaunt Brood @ [448] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Devourer

Formation: Subterranean Swarm (7#, 640 Pts)
1 Subterranean Swarm @ 640 Pts
1 Trygon (IA AP) @ [300] Pts
2 x Scything Talons; Bio-eletric Field
3 Ravener @ [120] Pts
Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
3 Ravener @ [120] Pts
Rending Claws; Scything Talons (x1)

Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (6#, 1785 Pts)
1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1785 Pts
Barbed Hierodule
1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
1 Carnifex @ [173] Pts
Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Twin-linked Devourer (x2)
1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts
Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
1 Carnifex @ [208] Pts
Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Reinforced Chitin; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon
1 Barbed Hierodule @ [700] Pts
Hierodule Bio-cannon (x2); Scything Talons (x2)

Formation: Mycetic Assault Storm (5#, 1290 Pts)
1 Mycetic Assault Storm @ 1290 Pts
1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
1 Carnifex @ [230] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxic Miasma; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Crushing Claws; Scything Talons (x1)
1 Carnifex @ [200] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Mace; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x2)
1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon
1 Carnifex @ [240] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bonded Exoskeleton; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Implant Attack; Reinforced Chitin; Tail Weapon - Scythe; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Tusked; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon

Formation: Kraken Tendril Swarm (132#, 1570 Pts)
1 Kraken Tendril Swarm @ 1570 Pts
Gargoyles; Gaunt Brood; Gaunt Brood; Warriors; Strategic Redeployment
10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts
Bio-plasma; Fleshborer
20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
Fleshborer
20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
Fleshborer
20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
Fleshborer
5 Warriors @ [315] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors @ [55] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature
10 Gargoyles @ [120] Pts
Bio-plasma; Fleshborer
20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
Fleshborer
20 Gaunt Brood @ [120] Pts
Fleshborer
5 Warriors @ [315] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors @ [55] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Barbed Strangler; Synapse Creature

Formation: Eye of the Hive (21#, 1314 Pts)
1 Eye of the Hive @ 1314 Pts
6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature
6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature
6 Warriors @ [388] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Deathspitter; Synapse Creature
1 Warriors @ [64] Pts
Adrenal Glands +1 In; Adrenal Glands +1 WS; Bio-plasma; Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Flesh Hooks; Leaping; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature

Formation: Hive Mind Brood (10#, 725 Pts)
1 Hive Mind Brood @ 725 Pts
Tyrant Guard; Zoanthrope; Zoanthrope
1 Hive Tyrant @ [170] Pts
Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Scything Talons (x1); Venom Cannon; Synapse Creature; The Horror; The Shadow in the Warp
1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
Rending Claws; Scything Talons
1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
Rending Claws; Scything Talons
1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
Rending Claws; Scything Talons
1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
1 Tyrant Guard @ [45] Pts
Lash Whips; Rending Claws
1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field
1 Zoanthrope @ [65] Pts
Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field

Formation: Genestealer Infestation (48#, 1695 Pts)
1 Genestealer Infestation @ 1695 Pts
1 Broodlord @ [341] Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons; Synapse Creature
8 Genestealers @ [248] Pts
Acid Maw; Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
12 Genestealers @ [288] Pts
Extended Carapace +1 Save; Feeder Tendrils; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Rending Claws
1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons
1 Lictor @ [80] Pts
Feeder Tendrils; Flesh Hooks; Rending Claws; Scything Talons

Total Roster Cost: 11923

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Deep Striking Units can opt not to deepstrike and come on from any table edge major off-topic kinda but when terminators turn up on your back door step it's not fun.

When you use Genestealer Infestation, all units involve HAVE to deep strike, they all may assault from deep strike, and all of them take a dangerous terrain test on the way in thanks to wonky 5th edition lictor rules.

any comments on the upgrades i've taken? which ones are good in Apoc? and which arent?