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Greets, here's the list;

Khan on bike
Command Squad x 4
--------All have LCs, Melta Guns, Melta bombs, Storm Shields
--------Apoth

Term Assault Squad x 7
Land Raider w/ MM

Tac Squad x 10 ----Rhino
-------Melta, MM

Tac Squad x 10 ---Rhino
-------Melta, MM

5 Man Bike Squd
-------Melta x 2

2 Land Speeders
-------MM + Hvy Flamer on both




I think if I face armor, I'm packing enough melta to do it in. If I'm facing horde, I have the command squad + Hvy Flamers + 20 marines. Plan is against non-horde, roll up behind the rhinos/Land Raider, then next turn melta/assault. Against hordes, use bikes to lighten up then counter charge with bikes/Terms.

Questions; Is it competitive? Is it fluffy?

Since white scars are supposed to be super-mobile, footslogging tactical squads don't make much sense. Maybe you should swap them for bikes (or, cut two terminators, since 5 of them is still a strong assault unit, and buy two razorbacks)

I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Since white scars are supposed to be super-mobile, footslogging tactical squads don't make much sense. Maybe you should swap them for bikes (or, cut two terminators, since 5 of them is still a strong assault unit, and buy two razorbacks)

Just because a certain chapter has a theme, doesn't mean that it's non-fluffy. Ie, the White Scars do have Tac Squads. They follow the Codex Astartes like every other loyalist chapter. He mentioned in his description following the list about Rhino's also, plus the thread title has 'Mech' in it. I'm pretty sure no one is flootslogging.

The list looks fine, not to my taste, but fine. Saying that, with the core principles it's difficult to get an SM list to a point where it isn't 'ok'.

That Bike Command Squad costs 590 pts...And they have a +3 save...a Blade Storming DA squad will kill 2.22 Bikes. Then you run the risk of loosing the Apoth to the first blade storm significantly lowering thier survivability.

Sorry, I must have been blind there not to see the word 'Rhino' in black and white. In that case, the list seems fine, if you like superunits - as tedurur points out, that squad is as tough as plague marines against small arms fire, but cost approx. 75 points each against the PMs 23.

Jasper, you must be blind as it says rhinos!

I think the list is ok, but honestly if I was doing White Scars I would make it a all biker army

My worry is you haven't got a lot for your points. The command squad is setup right, but costing a packet. The terminators and land raider is the only unit of its type - a priime target. Two tactical squads followed by 5 bikers and 2 speeders. Doesn't seem a lot for nearly 2,000 points.

tedurur wrote:That Bike Command Squad costs 590 pts...And they have a +3 save...a Blade Storming DA squad will kill 2.22 Bikes. Then you run the risk of loosing the Apoth to the first blade storm significantly lowering thier survivability.

The command squad actually costs 385, as Khan costs 205 by himself.

Perhaps I'm remembering wrong but I don't see how you can count on Avengers killing more than a single bike (Keep in mind we are using averages here, not a proper distribution table);

Blade Storm DA Squad:

30 shots
19.8 hits
6.54 wounds
2.15 failed saves
1 failed FNP
1 dead bike


Of course, I'm fast enough....that I shouldn't get transport dumped on unless I screw up (Or decide it's worth the risk). If they turbo and try to setup a next turn dump, that squad will melta the transport and chew whatever is inside.







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I-bounty-hunt-the-elderly wrote:Sorry, I must have been blind there not to see the word 'Rhino' in black and white. In that case, the list seems fine, if you like superunits - as tedurur points out, that squad is as tough as plague marines against small arms fire, but cost approx. 75 points each against the PMs 23.

I agree, they are pricey. But a straight plague marine/command bike comparison isn't really fair to the bikes. The command bikes are Plague Marines...that all have melta...and lightning claws...and a 3++....and can move 12/assault 18 if need be .

mercer wrote:Jasper, you must be blind as it says rhinos!

I think the list is ok, but honestly if I was doing White Scars I would make it a all biker army

My worry is you haven't got a lot for your points. The command squad is setup right, but costing a packet. The terminators and land raider is the only unit of its type - a priime target. Two tactical squads followed by 5 bikers and 2 speeders. Doesn't seem a lot for nearly 2,000 points.

I agree with this, I'm not sure where to go yet. I know command squad bikes work so I'm thinking of dumping the Raider/Terms and adding more bikes/rhinos. I already have a hammer unit in the bike squad so I don't know if I need two. Honestly, I just like the idea of running my bikes behind the Raider for LOS purposes. Maybe....


Khan with Command Squad as above

3 X 10 Man Tac Squad w/ Melta/MM in Rhinos

3 X 5 man Bike Squad w/ dual Meltas

2 Land Speeders with MM/Hvy flamer

Amended list looks better.