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5 Havocs @ 155 Pts
Missile Launcher (x4)

5 Havocs @ 140 Pts
Autocannon (x1); Heavy Bolter (x3)

1 Dreadnought @ 100 Pts
Multi-Melta

5 Terminators @ 190 Pts
Power Fist (x4); Power Weapon (x1);

5 Chaos Space Marines @ 110 Pts
1 Rhino @ [35] Pts


5 Chaos Space Marines @ 110 Pts
Twin Linked Bolter; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers

3 Obliterators @ 225 Pts

1 Chaos Sorceror @ 150 Pts
Wind of Chaos; Wings

1 Daemon Prince @ 130 Pts
Close Combat Weapon; Fearless; Wings

Total Roster Cost: 1310

Basic balanced army with heavy firepower from the havocs, Oblits and dread, with heavy hitters from the termies, DP. The low troop numbers should be ok as I'll try to hold them in reserve or hide them, using cover and smoke, WoC is for anything that gets too close. what do you think?

Exaclty what use is a 1310 pts list gonna do you ? Try adding some stuff to it , unless it's just for playing with friends OR you'r lgs/flgs has 1310 pt. games .

It's for a 1313 holloween turny. my 1750 list used bikes, lesser daemons, and 10 man troop choices.

The real question is "is this list scary enough a Halloween game?" The fire power that the Havocs and Obliterators have would certainly be intimidating to stare down.

Any idea what you'll be doing with the Termies? Footslog? Deepstrike? Counter Attack? Four Power Fists seems a little excessive, I think I'd try and fit some combi-weapons on them instead.

Um well,they are just AoBR Termies with spiky bits because spikes make you chaos...anywho they came with powerfist. I'll plan on DS them to back up any trouble that may come or to contest, cause havoc in the back field.

Ah i see . Chaos is perfect for a halloween turny But i dont have any knowledge in CSM whatsoever ..

I would try and get the 5-man chaos marine squads a special weapon each. The best way to get points for this would be to drop the winged sorcerer for a winged daemon prince like the one you already have. Boring, but hey, the sorcerer doesn't have a unit to join, and that makes him extremely vulnerable.

Also, you might consider going to a party on Halloween instead. It's your choice, I'm just saying, I've never seen a fit girl in a skimpy costume at a warhammer-related event.

hehe I'm married and having a halloween party later on in the night, while passing out candy. So it'w warhammer for me, no skippy girls :(. The plan with the sorcerer is to hide him inside a rhino, with a csm (Models with wings can get in transports, a perk of being chaos). Although I d like the idea of 2 dp if i can get a greater daemon involved as well.

Well, if you're married I suppose I can't question your priorities. Seriously though I don't thing winged models can get in transports. Their unit type changes to jump infantry doesn't it? Transports can only carry infantry.

I think that it allows them to move as jump infantry but doesn't make them jump infantry. Not 100% though.

Yes, wings allow you to move as jump infantry, not be jump infantry, which is how Daemon Prices can fly and be monsterous creatures. However, most wings options also allow you to use them as jump packs, which would make you jump infantry.

As for your list, all the five man squads certainly look scary (to you). I have a baaaaaad experience with 5 man squads. Simply not at all substatial enough. Really, any sort of good anti-infantry firepower will take them out.

Obliterators are pretty nice but the rest of your army is very weak. What exactly is the sorceror going to do with those wings? There's no squad he can join that moves as jump infantry. Are you intending to have him fly around by himself and eat a lascannon first turn?

If you're going to take that multimelta dread whatever you do, DON'T stick him anywhere near your rhinos.

Is your second 5 man CSM squad taking a rhino too? It's unclear.

5 man squads with no special weapons, no champion (and no powerfist) seems like a really weak option to me. As soon as your rhinos are popped those marines are going to get eaten alive. 5 man termi squad is pretty weak too. If they are footslogging they are going to get outmaneuvered very quickly, and there's a lot of effective counters to terminators.

If I were you I would scrap the havocs completely and pick up a pair of vindicators or defilers. If you must take a dread give it 2x CCW so it doesn't melt your rhinos. Scrap the termies, beef up your troops, get them some meltaguns and a fist champion. Give your demon prince mark of slaanesh and a lash with the leftover points. Have the sorceror ride with a troops squad - you may want to do a sorc in a rhino with 9x marines and two flamers, that can be pretty nasty 3 template goodness.