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Got my hand on the new book a bit early and decided to make me a list. A Plague list, with Furnaces lost of furnaces. Points removed until the new book is released.

Heroes:

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Plague Censer, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Plague Censer, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Plague Censer, Plague Furnace

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Plague Censer, Plague Furnace

Core:

20*Skavenslaves, Musicain

20*Skavenslaves, Musicain

20*Skavenslaves, Musicain

Special:

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard, Storm Banner

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

Total:2246

I smell

Why dont you have any cencer bearers? they seem awesome. especialy in a pestilence list..... it just needs them.
i think 4 furnaces are toooo much, i dont even exactly know what they do yet, but it seems cheesy, its either realy bad or too good.

I realy dislike so little variation in your list, its all the same stuff. slaves monks and furnaces, i know skaven has got allot of nice toys in the book i dont understand why you dont use anything. ^^

Well Rats do love them some cheese. Its to die for.

Reason why I don't use everything.

1) Cause Pestilence is my favorite clan.

2) Furnaces are awsome.

3) I am thinking of adding some Censer Bearers.

What does the furnace do that makes having 4 of them worthwhile?

Now that I cannot say as the book hasn't been officialy released.

No one is going to swoop in and murder you for a general description dude .

arinnoor wrote:Now that I cannot say as the book hasn't been officialy released.

Yes you can , the only thing you cant do is list the exact unit's point cost or give out pictures of the book content.

Its not horrible but I'd say get some Ogres or Censor Bearers. You have tons of Anvil units that are going no where but they do enough specialy if you get charged. Ya there unbreakable but with no way to cover the flanks ull get slaughtered I think. You have plenty of Anvil units and no hammer. think bout that

I assume the skaven slaves crumble like wet paper to anything charging them?

The plague Furnace i believe are chariots, which can also cause further hits during combat, and also spew gasses which make the unit pushing them super nuts and unbreakable, and fairly lethal to anyone in base that is not pestilence....they are pretty sweet for a retardedly small amount of points.

Does a S7 hit destroy them?

nope, they are immune to the str 7 death

however, 4 unbreakable units supported by 4 paper towels will get reamed. The furnace only works to the front, not the sides.

Drop two of em at least. Take some censur bearers, some clanrat units, and a doomwheel or two and you will do much better. Gives you a much more balanced list that can actually stand up to things.

Remember, rats are not an elite army. Even their best units aren't that great in grinding combat (HA a possible exception). They need numbers.

Have to agree with Cypher - you need a little variety, or skirmishers, or something that can give you some mobility. Although you'll be unbreakable due to the furnace, you have no armor whatsoever in your list as well (they'll die pretty quick). Your whole army (with exception of slaves) is going to be frenzied, so 1 or 2 cheap flying units is going to screw up your movement phase and bottleneck you through misdirection. Once your flank is exposed, folks will charge right in and tear up the units (long as they aren't in BSB with the furnace they'll be safe).
Also think about a BSB with the stormbanner - if you can eliminate enemy shooting (which it basically does), you'll be able to get those big units in combat.

Yeah the furnace is pretty ridiculous. I think I do remember it doing impact hits, but aside from that it also swings the giant ball, doing lots of damage, and has the normal censer rule of everything in base contact makes a toughness test or suffers a wound.

And they ALL count towards combat res!

The only problems with the furnace:

1. It isn't cheap
2. Its a BIG model
3. The unit is still frenzied
4. Has no armor save
5. Needs to be pretty close to shoot the reverse template, as well as get impact, toughness tests, swing the ball, etc. etc.

Without giving points, you could get a unit of 9 Plague Censer Bearers cheaper, with toughness tests, 27 magic attacks at Str5 with hatred. Or if you cut down the number of furnaces and plague monk units to push them, you could take some units of PCB, run them near the furnace and basically have a Stubborn LD 8 or so crazy CC unit.

Well since the Storm Banner isn't one use anymore, so I don't think flyers will be much of a problem. Yes flanks and frenzy could be problems, but that just means that I will have to play smarter. Anyways I do agree the Censers aren't needed on the Preist and that normal flails will do fine. I'm thinking to have the slaves help guard the flanks as road-blocks and have the second two furnaces stay back a little to guard the others.

Heroes:

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace

Core:

22*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

Special:

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard, Storm Banner

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

Total:2250

Suit yourself, man, but that's a one-trick pony. And as it's one trick, it's close-combat.... which even the plague monks just aren't that great at. A shooty army will tear you to pieces before you even get in range. A maneuverable one will hit your flanks and roll you up like a windowshade.

arinnoor wrote:Well since the Storm Banner isn't one use anymore, so I don't think flyers will be much of a problem. Yes flanks and frenzy could be problems, but that just means that I will have to play smarter. Anyways I do agree the Censers aren't needed on the Preist and that normal flails will do fine. I'm thinking to have the slaves help guard the flanks as road-blocks and have the second two furnaces stay back a little to guard the others.

Heroes:

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace, Dispell Scroll

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace

Plague Priest, Lvl 2, Flail, Plague Furnace

Core:

22*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

21*Skavenslaves, Musicain

Special:

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard, Storm Banner

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

27*Plague Monks, Musician, Standard

Total:2250

Your attempt at is failing. with so few bricks and frenzied you will be forced to reveal your flanks and once something is in the flank of that unit it can just grind it down all game long. If you want real drop 2 furnaces pick up 2 abominations and some clanrats for shooting and cencer bearers to support your furnaces.

The Stormbanner is pretty much accepted now it will be one-use only (says one-use only in non-English books) so its assumed it was just a typo. So - I would plan on getting the crap shot out of you enroute to trying to get into combat.
Maybe try thinking about taking a Plague Censor on a priest or two? Yeah your guys in BSB with the Furnace have to take tests (only die on a 6), but thats all enemies in BSB with the furnance (60mm wide so 3-5 tests) as well as the D6 tests they'll have to take from the furnace itself. Every round! Sure charge in there chaos knights - they'll be dead in 1-2 turns.
Get some plague censer bearers!