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I just need to get something straight in my head.

Imagine the following scenario;

A Trukk (with Reinforced Ram) loaded with Meganobz decides to ram a Land Raider.
The Trukk smashes itself to pieces against the sides of the Land Raider. The Land Raider snickers.
The Trukk is Wrecked. Rolls a Kaboom result on the Ramshackle table.
No Meganobs are killed by the explosion and they go on to pass their Pinning test.

Now the question.

Does anything prevent the Meganobs from shooting ("coz it soundz gud, hur hur") or assaulting the Land Raider?



EDIT.

Due to several issues I hadn't thought of, the pertinent question is changed to:

"Can a unit whose transport is destroyed during a ram, shoot or attack the vehicle their transport rammed?"

I would say they can definatly shoot as they aren't pinned. As far as assaulting I would say it depends on whether they would normally have been able to had the ram not done anything to either vehicle.

i cant check right now but i believe the ability of a trukk to ram is questionable (goes with the ram = tankshock argument, see: Deffrollas).

That being said, to the best of my knowledge they could shoot and even assault.

It's not questionable, it's confirmed. A trukk cannot ram.

Edit: Not even with a reinforced ram. Only tanks can ram, and a trukk ain't a tank.

I know that comparisons from other codices are always suspect, but the Torture Amp that allows DE Raiders to tank shock does not allow them to ram, as per the GW FAQ for DE.

Wow this question is loaded!

First to answer the question we must ignore the "can trukks ram?" debate the question invokes.

Ramming vehicles must always move at the highest speed it is capable of. For trukks, this is "flat out".

Passengers may not disembark or shoot from a vehicle if it has moved (or is going to move) flat out in that Movement phase.

Kaboom! requires passengers to disembark.

Thus, we have to now ignore the question"are they are able to disembark in light of the conflicting rules above?" to answer question of whether they can they shoot and/or assault.

Nothing in RAW prevents them at this point. Models disembarked from an open-topped vehicle are not prohibited from shooting or assaulting. However, normally they would not be able to shoot or assault because they would not be able to disembark from the flat-out vehicle.

So the last debate is RAW vs. RAI they shouldn't be able to based on speed, but we have constructed a highly questionable situation to start with.

Sorry utan, but the "can trukks ram" question is central to the entire debate.

Well certainly, but that has been debated ad nauseum along with the deff rolla question.

Neither side of the debate has been satisfied with the answer so some play yes they can ram with a ram, others play no they cannot.

Obviously in Steelmage's area, they allow trukks to ram so we move into the next debate of can the orks make an involuntary disembark from the trukk despite moving flat out?

That is another entire debate which I have seen ponderous threads. This answer is also unclear.

Leading to the third question, which Steelmage proposed: can the meganobs do anything after the controversial ram and disembark?

If you are going to allow the ram, the unit cannot disembark.

See "Fast Transport Vehicles" on page 70.

But, I do not understand how it would be allowed in the first place.
/shrug

I am sorry if a opened up several cans of worms. That wasn't my intention.


Would anything be changed if I changed my original question to the following;

"Can a unit whose transport is destroyed during a ram, shoot or attack the vehicle their transport rammed?"

If the transport did not move flat out, they can shoot at whatever they like.

Steelmage99 wrote:
"Can a unit whose transport is destroyed during a ram, shoot or attack the vehicle their transport rammed?"

If a "generic" open-topped transport tank was destroyed or exploded during a ram, and the passengers can disembark safely without being pinned, they could then normally act in the subsequent phases subject to the normal rules for a unit that moved in the movement phase.