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HQ Typhus

HQ prince, wings, warptime, MON

E 3x termies
3x lighting claws
(cant afford MON... but typhus goes here)


Troops

7x plague marines
champ with fist
2x melta guns
rhino with extra armor

^Same^
^Same^

H 3x oblits

H 1x vindicator
Possesion

^Same ^


if i drop one oblit, i can pick up 1 more termie with power weapon and heavy flamer... and i can get MON on termies (or another termie with claw or fist)

OR drop an oblit and a plague marine and 2 melta guns, and get a 5 man termie squad with MON or a 6 man termie squad (2-3 claws and 3 fists)

or maybe i should pick up some icons and lesser daemons???

What is the fluff?
Nurgle? Death Guard? Renegade Death Guard?

Typhus…meh. I find he’s still a bit pricey even closing in on 2000 points.
He’s more fragile than he looks.

Dp is ok.

Termies: bad idea IMO. Not enough numbers to do posse duty. No IoCG to keep them around. Don’t forget, they are not fearless, even with Typhus, so one bad LD10, and they are falling back, dragging Typhus’ big rear end with them.

In addition, they have no good delivery system. DSing a combat unit is asking for them to not be in combat.

Plague marines are ok, but I suggest losing extra armor, getting a pair of flamers or plasmas to very at least one squads’ weapons, maybe combiweapons on champs.

Oblits and Vindis are ok.

Lesser daemons are a flavor unit…in addition take a bit more thought to make the most out of them.
I think the hvys and for the most part troops are ideal.

fluff is nurgal...

nurgal DP
the herald of nurgal...
squads of 7 plague marines.
trying to get the termies up to 6 strong so when typhus is with them it is a squad of 7.

i just wish nurgals number was 5 or 6

i know typhus is overpriced, and underpowered for what you get... but that is 1 of 2 models that are making me want to do a CSM army, and the other is Nurgal daemon prince.


all i have for this army right now is the oblits.... the rest will be added very slowly. im gonna try and stick with a paint the last box (s) i bought before i buy any more.... that or just slap this on the christmass wishlist.



o... this is also the first chaos list i have ever writtin... just got the dex and was playing around.

You could just use him as a lord with T armor and Daemon weapon...cheaper.
If you go with Typhus.....just try to stay away or kill the fist...

Nurgle.<---

Since it's a fluff army go with 6 or 7 termies...but I don't think it's a good idea to entrust a 200+ HQ to a non-fearless unit.
In addition, (sadly) the most efficient application of termies is 3-5 with combi weapons only (Termicides). Anything else is a pointsink.

ok, so i reworked the list a bit and came up with 2 that i think i will try and playtest.

1st list.

Typhus

Prince W/ wings, MON, and nurgals rot

5x termies with 3x fist / claws, MON

7x plague marines, 2x meltas, Icon, Rhino, Extra armor
Same
Same

7x lesser daemons

Vindi W/ possession
Same

2x Oblits



Second list

replace typhus with lord in termie armor, MON, and daemon weapon

prince gets warptime

termies get bumped up to 6 strong with 5x claws / fists


EDIT: ive been thinking of giving the prince gift of chaos so i can try and snipe fists out of units that get to close to typhus. its only a 1/3 chance, but if it works then i can remove a large threat AND get a free spawn (that most likely engages the unit)

Gift’s timing makes it not so great for fist sniping as most likely he’d be in combat with said fist before you get a chance to be close enough to snipe it.

Putting down a 'free' spawn is situational, it could end up being worse for you.

I think your revised lists are an improvement, but I honestly couldn't say which was more impressive. I found typhus quite a point sink when my mate used him against me (I managed to instakill him with a fusion gun a couple of times, and I don't think typhus has seen the table since) so maybe the lord is more efficient. Both would be outclassed by another daemon prince though, IMO. Would that give you enough points for a 7th terminator?

Hang on a tic, your rhinos have extra armour. I would only put that upgrade on land raider class vehicles. A 15 pt upgrade, to protect your 35 pt vehicle from only one of six possible damage results? Just risk it, use the extra points to bulk out the terminators. I suggest some combi-weapons to shoot with on their opening turn.