Shattered America?

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**KingCracker**

So I watch alot of the BBC,RT and other world news shows. And on the RT it showed this Russian economist that said in the year 2010 that America will shatter into parts, states like DC,Florida and New York among others would become part of the EU, Alaska would go back to Russia, Texas and others near it would become its own nation and Michigan, Wisconsin and the like would most likely goto Canada.

I just wanted to ask, what the hell? You off topic folk seem to be some rather smart people and wondered where this guy would of came up with this?

**Quintinus**

It's a Russian talking about the economy?

Nothing more need be said.

**Kilkrazy**

He just wanted to get into the news.

Despite the continuous bitching that goes on, there's no chance of the USA splitting up on that kind of schedule.

Who the hell wants to join up with Russia? It's a craphole.

**KingCracker**

Thats kind of what I gathered. Im no specialist on the matter tho, I watch enough to be some what informed or know enough to know what to look up on the internet, but after hearing that I was like "what?!"
Thanks for the speedy responses!

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Also I wondered why Canada would want to take the likes of Michigan. I live here, the unemployment rate is still in the 20% area and is just falling into the crapper

**Altered_Soul**

Viva Mexico!

**Orkeosaurus**

I agree with Kilkrazy. It's an absurd theory, and it's probably only well-known because it's so CrAzY.

Every four years people act like America is going to split into Red vs Blue, but it never does (except for that one time

).

**dogma**

That's actually been a Russian prediction since during the Cold War. There are even some controversial European economists, historians, and political scientists who predict that the United States will either go through another civil war, or split into multiple nations. Though I can't think of anyone even semi-reputable putting out 2010 as a number.

**Big'Uns**

The state of NH has had a secession bill on the ballot since the sixties..

Several other states also have secession bills in their statehouses as well.

Pretty sure that's where the rusky got it from..

**JEB_Stuart**

That guy has been putting out that theory through Pravda and the like for years now. This stupid idea predates the collapse of the USSR.

**Orkeosaurus**

dogma wrote:That's actually been a Russian prediction since during the Cold War. There are even some controversial European economists, historians, and political scientists who predict that the United States will either go through another civil war, or split into multiple nations. Though I can't think of anyone even semi-reputable putting out 2010 as a number.

When was this prediction? I could see a Soviet predicting America's fall in 2010, if he made the prediction in the 1970s or something.

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JEB_Stuart wrote:That guy has been putting out that theory through Pravda and the like for years now. This stupid idea predates the collapse of the USSR.

Ah, nevermind then.

**dogma**

Orkeosaurus wrote:When was this prediction? I could see a Soviet predicting America's fall in 2010, if he made the prediction in the 1970s or something.

In the 80's, after the fall of the curtain. Originally it was based purely on economic data, but it now includes ideological division.

**paulguise**

Orkeosaurus wrote:Every four years people act like America is going to split into Red vs Blue, but it never does (except for that one time ).

It was Blue vs Grey technically, but no, that kind of split won't happen. If there was ambiguity between states, I could see that, but there is none of that.

Except for Texas. Those folks are crazy and I would never go there without a gun and a bag of bbq ribs to toss at them as they chase me.

**JD21290**

It's a craphole.

We both live in london krazy.
Pot, kettle?

**warpcrafter**

No way! We Americans will destroy our beloved nation as a whole, then after a few centuries to forget that it ever existed, we will start to build up a set of feudal kingdoms that bear no resemblance to the old state borders and become Europe junior. And jesus will be replaced in our holy books by a leather-clad Mel Gibson.

**Orkeosaurus**

So... it'll be Jesus will just be wearing leather instead of what he usually does?

**warpcrafter**

Orkeosaurus wrote:So... it'll be Jesus will just be wearing leather instead of what he usually does?

He'll be in a rocking chair in the deity retirement home next to dad.

**Fateweaver**

Mn would probably side with Texas because we, like them, love our guns and beer (oh and bbq).

Difference is they get to bbq in warm weather all year; we have to sit in -40F temps to grill our steaks.

**Miguelsan**

I vote for a shattered America RIFTS style, with cool power armored guys and monsters fighting it out. Actually I´m going to vote for a shattered Earth RIFTS style but only because I live in Kobe and according to RIFTS Japan we´ll be sent forward in time with lots of cool stuff and cyber-ninjas to a weird fantasy Japan, on the other hand if you are in Europe specially Germany, it sucks to be you guys.

M.

**Dal'yth Dude**

Choose your own American apocalypse and share it here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2223285/

**Orkeosaurus**

Those scenarios hurt my brain.

**Wrexasaur**

That presentation hurt my brain, but being a parody, I do applaud it, due to the clear and well though out presentation.

Well done... AND confusing... nacho time.

**Oldgrue**

In Soviet Russia American Balkanization speculates you!

**generalgrog**

I present the UNSNA

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/

Viva La UNSNA

I'm a radical, I think we should let Mexico in as well.

GG

**Black Blow Fly**

America will split into Bad Ass, More Bad Ass and Really Very Bad Ass. Hopefully we can pawn off all the dumb asses on Russia.

G

**Wrexasaur**

Really very badass... Because you cannot fire an RPG, while creepily smiling, and being chased by two helicopters... while ice skating.

**dogma**

Dal'yth Dude wrote:Choose your own American apocalypse and share it here.

http://www.slate.com/id/2223285/

That was pretty cool, once I weeded through all the robot overlords, and gray goo scenarios.

**Turbo10k**

Europe has been divided from humans settling there to the EU. America hasn't been divided from the 18th century. The worst that can come over it is the states closing up a bit between each other, but otherwise they will always have a national government.

For the guy who mentioned ninja-cyborg-mecha-samurai-jap-hype RIFTs, thats plain dumb. Disregarding the physical impossiblity or technical feastability of having a 30-foot human-formed mecha weilding swords and jumping around doing karate kicks, how's divided, balkanized states gonna get the money to make 'em?

Geez, be real.

**KingCracker**

Fateweaver wrote:Mn would probably side with Texas because we, like them, love our guns and beer (oh and bbq). Difference is they get to bbq in warm weather all year; we have to sit in -40F temps to grill our steaks.

Isnt that most states tho? I know Michigan is pretty much summed up like that was well (even the -40 coldness) Shoot we even had pretty lean gun laws until a few years ago. Now people actually have to register those pesky things.

So if I we can figure out how to get our states to move further south with Texas, we can all hang, AND itll be warmer for us lol

**Dal'yth Dude**

My results from Slate app:

You are a humanitarian internationalist. You're convinced mankind will terminate America—but at least we won't off ourselves in the process. You'll know you're right when: Everyone on Earth pledges allegiance to a world government; the feds default on the national debt.

I'm thinking the second scenario there is more likely.

**dogma**

I got the same result. I expect that, if the Feds default on the national debt, that some form of world government won't be far behind. There's already significant talk of a global reserve currency.