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Here is the list i've been running lately, only have lost vs orks heavy on kans. C&C appreciated

HQ

Daemon Prince – Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Warptime – 175 pts

Chaos Lord – Mark of Nurgle, Daemon Weapon, Wings – 170 pts



Elite

Terminators x5 – Power Fist x1, Combi-weapon x2, Reaper autocannon – 195 pts



Troops

Chaos Space Marines x10 – Champion w/Power Fist, Icon of Chaos Glory, Flamer x2, Rhino – 245 pts

Chaos Space Marines x10 – Champion w/Power Fist, Icon of Chaos Glory, Plasma gun x2, Rhino – 265 pts

Lesser Daemons x5 – 65 pts



Fast

Raptors x10 – Champion w/Pair of lightning Claws & meltabombs, Icon of Khorne – 275 pts

Raptors x5 – Champion w/Pair of Lightning Claws & meltabombs, Meltagun x2 – 165 pts



Heavy

Obliterators x3 – 225 pts

Chaos Land Raider – 220 pts.



TOTAL PUNTOS: 2000

What are the individual untis' points costs?

I'm sure it's not hard to guestimate or crack open your own if you 'really' have to know.
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DP is ok.
Lord is meh.

Termies: in the LR? Then they don’t need the Reaper. I feel this sort of combo is quite underwhelming for chaos.

CSM squads look ok, but I rather have some meltas around.
5 Lesser daemons = no. Either get larger squads or drop them.

Raptors (10): Always get the 2 special wapons.
Raptors (5) meh, too small of a squad to warrant a champ.

Hvy is ok….though something else in the LR would be preferable.

adielubbe wrote:What are the individual untis' points costs?

There you go


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Sanctjud wrote:

DP is ok.
Lord is meh.

I know the Lord is meh, and that kharn would be better, still is just to stick a lil more to the Night Lords fluff

Termies: in the LR? Then they don’t need the Reaper. I feel this sort of combo is quite underwhelming for chaos.

True, now that you mention the reaper has never shined, xcept one time they blew my LR on the first turn and the autocannon blew up a rhino full of sisters, got 3 on the blast , due to my models range i could replace it with a Champion w/LC, how does that sounds?

CSM squads look ok, but I rather have some meltas around.


I know meltas rule in 5th, i just got my old plasma models, one of these days i'll assemble some melta marines for it

5 Lesser daemons = no. Either get larger squads or drop them.

So 10 or nothing?, dunno what should i drop :\

Raptors (10): Always get the 2 special wapons.
Raptors (5) meh, too small of a squad to warrant a champ.

Hvy is ok….though something else in the LR would be preferable.

Lord Yayula wrote:
HQ

Daemon Prince – Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Warptime – 175 pts

Chaos Lord – Mark of Nurgle, Daemon Weapon, Wings – 170 pts

I don't quite know what "Night Lords flavored" means, but I bet it shouldn't include the Mark of Nurgle. But, fluff aside, the Prince is the standard non-Lash variant, and will rarely disappoint. As you said, Lord could be better. I am not a fan of Daemon Weapons, never have been, never will be. But don't use Kharn.

Elite

Terminators x5 – Power Fist x1, Combi-weapon x2, Reaper autocannon – 195 pts
"Combi-weapon" isn't a choice. Combi-melta is, combi-flamer is, and combi-plasma is. Since you have two, I am guessing you have a single box of terminators and built them with a combi-melta and a combi-flamer. You are best off specializing. Turn the Power Fist into a Chain Fist - five points more to wreck any vehicle you come across. If your terminators are riding in the Land Raider, they neither need nor want the Reaper - a Heavy Flamer would be much better.


Troops

Chaos Space Marines x10 – Champion w/Power Fist, Icon of Chaos Glory, Flamer x2, Rhino – 245 pts

Chaos Space Marines x10 – Champion w/Power Fist, Icon of Chaos Glory, Plasma gun x2, Rhino – 265 pts
Rule of thumb - 1500 points should have 3 squads of some kind of CSM. Meltas or Flamers, save Plasma Guns for Chosen or Plague Marines.

Lesser Daemons x5 – 65 pts
As has been said, go big or go home. Lesser Daemons need 10+ bodies, or else they are just a crappy speedbump and free consolidate move for your opponent.

Fast

Raptors x10 – Champion w/Pair of lightning Claws & meltabombs, Icon of Khorne – 275 pts

Raptors x5 – Champion w/Pair of Lightning Claws & meltabombs, Meltagun x2 – 165 pts

I would drop the Claws from the 5-man Champ. That squad should be shooting tanks, and nothing else. Five Raptors won't make a drop in the bucket in close combat. I would be tempted to drop the champ overall. Either way, both squads should have Icons for bringing down Lesser Daemons and (maybe) Terminators. As attractive as the Pair of Claws + Mark of Khorne is, you want a Power Fist there too. Last thing you want is to get in CC with a Dred and need to rely on one melta-bomb a turn hitting on a 6.

Heavy

Obliterators x3 – 225 pts

Chaos Land Raider – 220 pts.

If you find points after making changes, go for 2x2 on the Oblits.


TOTAL PUNTOS: 2000

Blue Orphen wrote:
Chaos Lord – Mark of Nurgle, Daemon Weapon, Wings – 170 pts

I don't quite know what "Night Lords flavored" means, but I bet it shouldn't include the Mark of Nurgle. But, fluff aside, the Prince is the standard non-Lash variant, and will rarely disappoint. As you said, Lord could be better. I am not a fan of Daemon Weapons, never have been, never will be. But don't use Kharn.

Elite

Terminators x5 – Power Fist x1, Combi-weapon x2, Reaper autocannon – 195 pts
"Combi-weapon" isn't a choice. Combi-melta is, combi-flamer is, and combi-plasma is. Since you have two, I am guessing you have a single box of terminators and built them with a combi-melta and a combi-flamer. You are best off specializing. Turn the Power Fist into a Chain Fist - five points more to wreck any vehicle you come across. If your terminators are riding in the Land Raider, they neither need nor want the Reaper - a Heavy Flamer would be much better.

Actually the codex on the upgrade for termies says combiweapon, and on the wargear description combi-weapon says to be a shot of flamer/melta/plasma, there is no such wargear as combi-melta as it was on 3rd edition. But yeah they are combi-meltas i got the models for combimeltas, i have more but they are the old metal ones, and would like to use the cool new ones

And regarding the MoN of nurgle on the lord, i use it cause it lets me reroll to wound on most units just like a pair of LC would and having no other restriction for modeling daemon weapon other than it is a weapon that requieres both hands to use, seems to me i can model it at poisoned claws.

I agree on the rest you said, maybe i should drop the daemons and the 5 man raptor, pass the meltas on to the 10man squad and use the spare points for another CSM with meltas.