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Hi all, I was wondering if instant death eliminates all wounds or just one?

I read the rulebook and I thought I saw something other than taking one wound.

Thanks, Malo.

Instant death means that even if a model has multiple wounds, instant death kills it, uh, instantly.

The model that suffers instant death is removed, regarless of how many wounds it has in its profile.

from my understanding, Instant death is only applied to a target with more than 1 wound. So if a Meganob or something is hit with a str10, he dies even though he has 2 wounds. If something only has 1 wound, it doesnt matter because it dies anyways =)

Ok thnaks, I need to prove my friend wrong!


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Malo, your question indicates other confusion.

When using a weapon that causes 'instant death', everything goes as before
Roll to hit
Roll to wound
take appropriate saves

once all of that is done, the model is dead, regardless of number of wounds.

Unless, of course, it has a rule (say Eternal Warrior or 'Nid in Synapse) that prevents ID............

pg26 of the rulebook:

If a model suffers an unsaved wound from an attack that has a Strength value of double it's Toughness value or greater, it is killed outright and removed as a casualty.

along the lines of SPLAT

But it does get invulnerable or cover saves against ID, unless the weapon causing ID specifically says it dosen't allow those saves.

Valkyrie wrote:But it does get invulnerable or cover saves against ID, unless the weapon causing ID specifically says it dosen't allow those saves.

And regular saves, if they apply. Say T4 multi-wound model in Terminator Armor that is wounded by a ST 8 Krak Missile. He still gets his 2+ save, because Instant Death, in and of itself, does not deny any saves. I don't know why people have such a hard time grasping this given that it's written into the freakin' rule.

If a model suffers an unsaved wound......................

don_mondo wrote:

Valkyrie wrote:But it does get invulnerable or cover saves against ID, unless the weapon causing ID specifically says it dosen't allow those saves.

And regular saves, if they apply. Say T4 multi-wound model in Terminator Armor that is wounded by a ST 8 Krak Missile. He still gets his 2+ save, because Instant Death, in and of itself, does not deny any saves. I don't know why people have such a hard time grasping this given that it's written into the freakin' rule.

If a model suffers an unsaved wound......................

Yup. This. Unless you have a rule that prevents this, Eternal Warrior and Nid Synapse being the common 2 that pop to mind, if the strength is double your toughness, its not that you take a wound. A wound in 40k is you could be killed, incapacitated, knocked out, badly wounded etc... you can still be alive!

Instant death is that bit in the movies where the guy gets hit in the chest with a rocket and his limbs and head and bits fly all over the place. So whilst a ork Nob is tough as nailz, and can take a punch from a space marine and simply spit out blood and punch him back, a krak missile hit will very much result in little bits of nob raining around on all his squad mates. Instant Death Or insta-gib if that makes the image of what happening to your man a bit more memorable?

I have been confused on this ? so you can armour save against something that kills you instantly ? so a strength 10 AP 3 gun against a terminator would allow him saves ? dam...

Mr. DK wrote:I have been confused on this ? so you can armour save against something that kills you instantly ? so a strength 10 AP 3 gun against a terminator would allow him saves ? dam...

Yep.

If you are instant deathed (wounded by S double T) you lose all your wounds. This is aplied to models with one wound but it is no different.
BTW where's Gwar?? He should have posted by now??

Eldar Own wrote:If you are instant deathed (wounded by S double T) you lose all your wounds. This is aplied to models with one wound but it is no different.
BTW where's Gwar?? He should have posted by now??

Eh, others answered it correctly, so I had no need to post.

But yeah, Instant Death has no affect on armour saves.

Gwar! wrote:

Eldar Own wrote:If you are instant deathed (wounded by S double T) you lose all your wounds. This is aplied to models with one wound but it is no different.
BTW where's Gwar?? He should have posted by now??

Eh, others answered it correctly, so I had no need to post.

But yeah, Instant Death has no affect on armour saves.

As well as cover saves and invulnerable saves. Instant death even specifies it applies to unsaved wounds.

When using a weapon that causes 'instant death', everything goes as before
Roll to hit
Roll to wound
take appropriate saves

once all of that is done, the model is dead, regardless of number of wounds.

UNLESS, the weapon used to kill the model has an armour piercing thats lower than the victim's armour save, the opponent can't take and armour save.

Honestly though, this is a really simple rule. Yet people come up to me all the time saying stuff like:

Them - "HaHa! In your face! That guy is dead naow ho-ho-ho"
Me - Eh? Why?
Them - Insta death! w00t!
Me - Yeah ok, I'll take my 2+ armor save
Me - *Rolls*
Me -
Them - Told you....

SuperioR wrote:Honestly though, this is a really simple rule. Yet people come up to me all the time saying stuff like:

Them - "HaHa! In your face! That guy is dead naow ho-ho-ho"
Me - Eh? Why?
Them - Insta death! w00t!
Me - Yeah ok, I'll take my 2+ armor save
Me - *Rolls*
Me -
Them - Told you....

Happens to my Canoness all the time. >.>
Darn T3 HQ...

Yea... don't just just hate it when a Canoness gets double teamed by two husky guys fisting her to death...wait a minute...this is rated PG right?